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Mason Greenwood.

402 replies

Icannotbelieveitatall · 02/02/2023 14:23

I cannot believe that the charges have been dropped.

Anyone remember the audio recording?

He demanded she put her legs up.
“Mason stop, I don’t want to have sex.”
”I don’t give a fuck what you want.”

Charges dropped. I cannot believe it.

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DownNative · 02/02/2023 14:30

Withdrawal of key witnesses AND new material = no realistic possibility of conviction.

So, GMP have a duty to stop the case, they say.

IDontCareMatthew · 02/02/2023 14:32

Wonder what the 'new material' could be?

The CPS have dropped it

ilovesooty · 02/02/2023 14:32

They said they won't be commenting further. Presumably it's because they don't think they'll get a conviction.

Itsrudemeghan · 02/02/2023 14:33

Rape is basically legal at this point

GideonSmideon · 02/02/2023 14:34

Charges being dropped does not equal innocence. Maybe he could go to Arsenal and play with Partey.

IDontCareMatthew · 02/02/2023 14:34

Itsrudemeghan · 02/02/2023 14:33

Rape is basically legal at this point

He wasn't charged with rape as far as I know

Petronus · 02/02/2023 14:38

Itsrudemeghan · 02/02/2023 14:33

Rape is basically legal at this point

I agree - if you knew the person, went with them back to a house or hotel, consented before, consented to any contact, had a previous relationship - forget it. It seems to be fair game. The rape conviction rates in this country are a disgrace.

Winniethepoohandtiggertoo · 02/02/2023 14:40

But surely you understand there has to be a trial and evidence? And no evidence means no trial? Otherwise what system should we have in place?

IntentionalError · 02/02/2023 14:44

Not a surprise, sadly. A ‘key prosecution witness’, presumably the alleged victim, has withdrawn their support for the prosecution. In a case where the suspect is a multi millionaire footballer, people will draw their own conclusions about the reasons for that.

IDontCareMatthew · 02/02/2023 14:46

Yes with some new information coming to light.... and a key witness withdrawing?

Hmm

FrownedUpon · 02/02/2023 14:47

Money talks

Walrussy · 02/02/2023 14:48

Disgusting. I thought they wouldn't actually need the victim's co-operation given the disgusting content of her recording. If that doesn't get a man charge with rape, what would? I hope no football club will touch and I hope no woman will ever go near him again.

mcjudge · 02/02/2023 14:50

Does that mean he is innocent and will go back to football?

IntentionalError · 02/02/2023 14:51

Greenwood will be back playing somewhere within months. (I believe he is still contracted to Man Utd). All charges against him have been dropped. The case didn’t come to trial, never mind a conviction. Legally he is an innocent man and is free to get on with his life & career.

IDontCareMatthew · 02/02/2023 14:52

mcjudge · 02/02/2023 14:50

Does that mean he is innocent and will go back to football?

Yes

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 02/02/2023 14:53

"Welcome to the United Kingdom. We don't bother prosecuting rape."

The whole system's a damned disgrace.

Catspyjamas17 · 02/02/2023 14:54

If he comes back to Man Utd I will not have anything more to do with them, and I've been a fan all my life. We all know what he did. There was a video.

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 02/02/2023 14:54

IDontCareMatthew · 02/02/2023 14:52

Yes

It means he wasn't prosecuted and is innocent in the eyes of the law. His actual innocence is something else entirely.

Walrussy · 02/02/2023 14:57

www.reddit.com/r/ManchesterUnited/comments/sg5syp/video_and_transcript_of_the_mason_greenwood/

For anyone who thinks he's innocent, here's the recording she made. Warning that it's upsetting.

Winniethepoohandtiggertoo · 02/02/2023 15:01

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · 02/02/2023 14:53

"Welcome to the United Kingdom. We don't bother prosecuting rape."

The whole system's a damned disgrace.

Oh come on with no evidence how do you expect a trial to happen? Or do you think trials aren’t needed? Can anyone actually answer that?

IDontCareMatthew · 02/02/2023 15:04

Anyway, the ex girlfriend has now gone back to following him on social media. And vice versa...

girlfriend44 · 02/02/2023 15:04

Why does a young man in a very envied position earning great money playing sport even need to do stuff like this.

He shouldn't want to jeopardise his position.
Loads would love to play sport at top level and wouldn't behave like this.

illtakeit · 02/02/2023 15:04

I thought it was the girl that dropped the charges?

Siameasy · 02/02/2023 15:04

Of course it’ll be dropped if the complainant withdraws. She is presumably the only witness.
Thank God the law is reason free from passion.

SavoirFlair · 02/02/2023 15:06

Itsrudemeghan · 02/02/2023 14:33

Rape is basically legal at this point

Ridiculous.

do you just want every man who is accused, convicted? Every single one regardless of the evidence?

FGS. This site.