To think that caring about what is fashionable is childish?

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Or at least portrays a massive lack of confidence?

I can understand it in teenagers- you're still developing both physically and as a person and conformity is safety.

But for adults? Why would an adult choose clothes because they're "in" as opposed to whether or not you, personally suit them?
That they make you happy, comfortable or make you comfortable?

See plenty of threads on here asking exactly that.

@Calphurnia88 I really am blushing now…Just a bit passionate about this, have just finished Dress Code by Veronique Hyland and it’s right at the forefront of my mind!

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow excellent point. There’s always been an element of altering the body to suit the clothes (corsets, girdles, padding etc) but it’s becoming increasingly permanent now. Plus the trend for ‘naked’ dresses where the body itself is the aesthetic.

I think it’s fine to want to not look like you’re stuck in another century with your fashion choices but some clothes are intended for youngsters in my opinion, and this includes the trend for crop tops. Look great on my teenage DD, don’t look great on anyone over 30

People have been altering their bodies for 1000's of years. That is nothing new

They haven’t been having butt lifts or lip fillers though. They weren’t around 100’s of years ago.

Oooh thanks for the tip, I've just found an interview with her on Spotify. That'll brighten up one of tomorrow's pram walks 😊

No, they just elongated their skulls and filed their teeth instead

That's even more permanent that a butt lift or lip filler

I don't think it's childish. Maybe shows a little insecurity in some ways, particularly being a slave to trends and not considering whether they actually suit you and your personality. But it can also be fun or creative.

@Salacia you know that thing where you have to name someone dead or alive that you would most like to sit and chat with? It’s you!
Agree with pp, you are my new favourite mner.

I agree. Not just in clothes but homes too. Any new kitchen is going to date so you might as w ell say blow fashion and get what you like. “On trend” is one of my most hated phrases.

No, I’m saying that these types of comments are overwhelmingly present on threads about women’s fashion and never on threads about technology, other types of consumerism, etc. I try to buy ethically whenever possible but I do not sneer at others because I know I am still far from an entirely ethical consumer.

*No, they just elongated their skulls and filed their teeth instead

That's even more permanent that a butt lift or lip filler*

Not in Western history, and we are essentially discussing the west.

You're not wrong. My mil spends an absolute fortune on fashion and is still working, way past her retirement age because she is so in debt.

I cannot fathom why people want to spend so much on clothes they don't need, because "fashion". She is absolutely drowning in clothes and shoes. She says she owns over 100 pairs of knickers and defended it saying "i need the right underwear for the outfit!"

DH had so many clothes when we met, hundreds of tshirts. (He still lived at home at the time). We've been together for 8 years and the only clothes he has needed to buy are pants and socks. So much went to charity shops because he had so many clothes, and nowhere to put them, when he moved in with me.
It was all his mum, taking him shopping. He doesn't give a toss about fashion and neither do I. I get what I need, the cheaper the better!
I have my own style, not what is in fashion "this season".
I don't have respect for anyone who is fashion obsessed actually. To me it says "vacuous and shallow".

I am a 47 year old with a career and a family. I love fashion and clothes, have done since I was an actual child. I think it is fun, I love updating my looks by mixing classic pieces with “in fashion” items. I don’t consider myself at all insecure and I’m certainly not childish or shallow, it’s just a hobby of mine that makes day to day life a bit more enjoyable for me.

www.science.org/content/article/strange-elongated-skulls-reveal-bulgarian-treaty-brides-ancient-germany

So one example from Bulgaria? Yeah.

On my 50000 word document on the history of Western fashion l don’t seem to recall any permanent modifications.

What have you got against Bulgaria?

Utzi had tattoos.

Women had ribs removed in more recent centuries.

People wore corsets to the point they couldn't stand up without them

People even castrated themselves

That is true but I was admittedly coming at this from a UK perspective and I can’t think (off the of of my head, happy to be corrected as I find this fascinating) of another period of British history where there has been widespread adaptation of a permanent/semi-permanent body modification across the entire range of society in this country (beyond ear piercing or tattoos) which is purely aesthetic with no other cultural or religious significance. I know loads of women of similar backgrounds to me (‘normal’ in the sense that they’re not actors, socialites, models etc who have always dabbled more in cosmetic surgery by virtue of being on display/their face is their brand, think about Margaret Hayworth pre-makeover) who regard fillers as part of their beauty regimen alongside getting their hair cut and coloured and a manicure. I have a lot of nurse friends who have a sideline in injectables - it’s a completely normal second job in my circle. That’s definitely a shift over the past 20 years and is very noticeable if you compare the women on instagram doing the Y2K trend vs women on the red carpet/street style blogs back in the early 00s (certainly a lot more buccal fat around 20 years ago…).

@TabithaTittlemouse that’s very kind but I’m really very boring in real life…there are much more interesting people to pick!

Name change fail, oh well…

I love nothing more than putting outfits together and trying new things. Love clothes and love fashion - however, it’s not for everyone - it’s just how I am and it’s how I like to express myself.

I confess that my first thought, when I read the OP, was “oh dear, the OP has been to an event and realised that her ruff, farthingale and pattens aren’t cutting the sartorial mustard”.

However, the OP has unwittingly done me a service because I’ve really enjoyed following the links to fashion websites and looking up Viktor & Rolf haute couture.

Ha ha me too!

It got me digging around for my photos from a good few V&A exhibitions! Balenciaga, Dior, McQueen, and the wedding dress one 😊

I'll also add Yohji Yamamoto and Comme des Garçons for some awesome couture pics.