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To ask your thoughts on Andrew Tate?

342 replies

bagthoughts · 25/12/2022 09:06

I went out for dinner recently and all of my nephews aged between 13-26 had a lots of respect for him.

While I agree with a lot of what Andrew Tate says he then has to spoil things with his horrific views on certain topics and I'd go as far as to say some of his points make him dangerous to young men (it concerned me how my nephews really respect him)

What are your thoughts on Andrew Tate?? But also, why do so many respect him in this way when he is so dangerous? Or is it that most people clearly secretly feel this way too?!

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sorrynotathome · 25/12/2022 09:08

”Respect”?! What for?

bagthoughts · 25/12/2022 09:08

@sorrynotathome they see him as a role model

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 25/12/2022 09:10

Who's Andrew Tate?

ZenNudist · 25/12/2022 09:11

Well he thrives on attention so starting a thread about him is silly.

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 25/12/2022 09:11

You agree with a lot of what he says???

JoyfulGirl · 25/12/2022 09:12

I’d be extremely worried for any girls getting involved with your nephews 😨

Lolacat1234 · 25/12/2022 09:12

I didn't actually know who he was until my sons school put a special paragraph in the newsletter explaining how toxic he is and how they will not tolerate any discussion on him in school in a positive light etc and to make sure we watch out for our sons and explain etc if we find they are looking at his content. I have had a word with my son about him and he seems to understand why he is not an OK person. But I have seen his friends sending him things on WhatsApp about him, I still don't know much about him but know he is someone I don't want my son watching.

mikeyboo · 25/12/2022 09:12

If your nephews really view him as a role model, someone has failed those young men horrifically.

Pinkflipflop85 · 25/12/2022 09:17

I would be absolutely horrified if anyone I loved saw him as a role model.

Stopclutchingpearls · 25/12/2022 09:17

He’s a huge misogynist get your nephews off the internet fgs. No self respecting woman should have any respect for him. He went on piers Morgan who is also a massive dick, but his awful attitude shined through yuck.
Hes part of why so many young men are becoming incels to yuck

Stopclutchingpearls · 25/12/2022 09:18

Also what stuff can you certainly agree with him about as he is absolutely vile so maybe your nephews and you deserve each other if you agree with anything he says

sorrynotathome · 25/12/2022 09:18

YABVU and I think you know it.

Squarerootofpi · 25/12/2022 09:20

I think he's a rat faced little twat that thinks he's far more important then he actually is. He also needs to commit to an accent.

bagthoughts · 25/12/2022 09:21

It's not all black and white - someone can be overall bad but still say some truthful things - for example people should be more resilient these days is something Andrew stands strongly about - I agree.

However, He also says some horrific things about women, mental health - to which I strongly disagree. My point, it's not black and white to agree or disagree with someone. However overall, his points I disagree with make him overall someone I could never support. I hope this makes sense - please don't try and twist my words by simplifying my opinion here.

Also, those stating somehow my nephews have been failed - this man is the most talked about and googled man the past year and has millions of male fans worldwide so it clearly isn't just my nephews in agreement with him - hence my point is that his popularity is worrying because it appears there are millions upon millions of men supporting what he says.

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bagthoughts · 25/12/2022 09:21

Squarerootofpi · 25/12/2022 09:20

I think he's a rat faced little twat that thinks he's far more important then he actually is. He also needs to commit to an accent.

😂 this is true

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bagthoughts · 25/12/2022 09:21

sorrynotathome · 25/12/2022 09:18

YABVU and I think you know it.

No, I don't know it

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wincarwoo · 25/12/2022 09:22

Find someone else you agree with who isn't abhorrent.

OneTC · 25/12/2022 09:25

Proper small dick energy.

Divebar2021 · 25/12/2022 09:27

What colours your Boooogggggatttti! ?

bagthoughts · 25/12/2022 09:27

Why are so many millions of people following him? Does no one seem to think this is strange or concerning that so many of Mn think he's so dangerous but somehow he's the most googled man on the planet? Why is this. Clearly he resonates with a lot of people - does noone find that worrying?

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BelenaConhamHarter · 25/12/2022 09:28

He's a cartoon character. But unfortunately he's peddling a lot of harmful shit to kids that don't understand the context (I'll say anything to make bank, rather than I am making a good point badly)

He's best ignored

OneTC · 25/12/2022 09:28

Why are so many millions of people following him?

Because he's a very capable grifter

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 25/12/2022 09:29

He's an excellent example of why the western world is fucked.

He's an arrogant, misogynistic arsehole with about as much intelligence as a cat shit. Yet he's given a platform to spout his shite as if he is some sort of expert on everything from criminal justice to mental health.

If you agree with a single thing he says I would urge you to do us all a favour, take a long hard look at yourself, and stay off the internet for the foreseeable.

Byfleet · 25/12/2022 09:30

OP you will be adding to the number of Googles by starting this thread. Which I guess is what you intended.

Your argument that he says some good things among the nasty things does not stand up. Many, many nasty pieces of work have some reasonable opinions. Hitler loved dogs and was a vegetarian. Would you overlook the holocaust stuff if you were a vegetarian?

There are plenty of decent people who argue for eg.resilience. Andrew Tate is a very nasty piece of work who is adding to the distress young women suffer when out and about and trying to have relationships. If you care about yourself (assuming you are a woman), your daughters, mother, friends etc. read the opinions of decent men not the likes of AT. Ignore him.

Wonnle · 25/12/2022 09:31

Is he the gallery bloke or one half of the sugar lot ?

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