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Nogbreaks · 19/12/2022 08:26

Feels Meghan has done to him to justify the vitriol and misogyny of that article he wrote where he’d like to see her naked and assaulted?

I mean WTF? How in earth did a major publication think that it was fine to publish his little sexual fantasy about hurting a woman like that?

I’m no fan of the Royals in any form, and could care less about their infighting, but why are we surprised that there is so much violence against women and girls when this kind of article by an influential man is seen as okay to write?
Where’s his description of a naked, vulnerable Harry being assaulted??

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IamnotSethRogan · 19/12/2022 08:46

It's awful and really telling that the only people he can name that he hates are women.

This obsessive Meghan hatred is absolutely ridiculous and out of control. How anyone can have such an opinion on someone they don't know who made decisions about they're own life that don't affect you is bonkers.

Treaclemine · 19/12/2022 08:48

I'm pretty glad I never watched Game of Thrones, or read the books. George Martin and the makers of the series have fed that fantasy. Poor actress. Sensitivity readers and intimacy choreographers presumably not involved.
How many other men are applying that imagery to whom?

whoareyouinviting · 19/12/2022 08:49

Sartre · 19/12/2022 08:37

He’s justifying everything Harry and Meghan have said about the media and completely vindicating them.

I agree. Point and case with Clarkson.

Mooda · 19/12/2022 08:49

@NoShrunking you're so right. It's hard to imagine a better illustration of what Meghan has to put up with from the UK media and why they felt they had no choice but to leave.

Maybe Clarkson is secretly team M&H?!

AnotherForumUser · 19/12/2022 08:49

IamnotSethRogan · 19/12/2022 08:46

It's awful and really telling that the only people he can name that he hates are women.

This obsessive Meghan hatred is absolutely ridiculous and out of control. How anyone can have such an opinion on someone they don't know who made decisions about they're own life that don't affect you is bonkers.

This.
Clarkson is an odious misogynist who has sick fantasies about abusing women and gleefully describes them to whip up hatred against his current target.

handbagsandholidays · 19/12/2022 08:50

YANBU... also anybody find it weird that JC and Camilla were pictured together at a private Xmas party on Friday? It all seems a little too coincidental.

Nogbreaks · 19/12/2022 08:50

I suppose there’s not much new in old men
using their power to bring down and threat women, young women in particular.
I wonder if he ran the column past Camilla and Piers Morgan at that Xmas party they all attended last week?

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AntennaReborn · 19/12/2022 08:52

Who are the 9% who this OP is BU ???

AntennaReborn · 19/12/2022 08:52

*think

SnowlayRoundabout · 19/12/2022 08:53

I'm really puzzled about the really personal level of hatred demonstrated by Clarkson and Morgan. What is she supposed to have done to them to provoke this? Is Clarkson another many who fancied his chances and is miffed because she didn't show any interest?

IClaudine · 19/12/2022 08:54

AntennaReborn · 19/12/2022 08:52

Who are the 9% who this OP is BU ???

Now 10%. Maybe pathetic incels who haunt MN? Or women who are racist twits?

whoareyouinviting · 19/12/2022 08:55

When I think of Clarkson and Morgan I just see privileged men who've likely had it easy in life (no opposition career wise due to their gender or race), who have no respect for young females in particular. It's sickening and just out of date behaviour. Dinosaurs.

Wanderingoff · 19/12/2022 08:55

it quote makes the point that he really wouldn’t ever write this about Harry doesnt it.

i find Harry and Meghan quite unlikeable. But I am genuinely perplexed why there is such a level of vitriol from the tabloids and conservative press about her.

Clarinet1 · 19/12/2022 08:56

To me, you may dislike a person, male or female, but to suggest the kind of physical, humiliating degradation that JC does is just taking things way too far.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 19/12/2022 08:59

Camilla was pictured at a lunch with Clarkson the day after this repulsive screed was published. Also in attendance was Piers Morgan, who's waged a grinding, relentless vendetta against Markle that bears all the hallmarks of a fixation. Lest we forget, she is a patron for charities supporting victims of VAWG, an issue of epidemic proportions which sees women murdered every week.

IMO she is no fit person to act as any kind of ambassador for abused women. To make matters worse Windsor PR has not issued any statement of condemnation against Clarkson's misogynistic hate-speech. With and with recent confirmation of credible death threats against her, there is no wonder Markle feared for her safety.

How would it feel to read those words about yourself? Clarkson made me realise for the first time the hell that woman really has been up against. The silence of her in-laws speaks volumes, and says a lot about their characters.

It's an ugly picture.

cakeorwine · 19/12/2022 08:59

I see the usual suspects on Twitter are saying it's freedom of speech. Well, he can certainly say it but what an awful thing to say, to write about.

He has exposed himself for what he is. I bet with the media hate and the repeated negative articles about them that he didn't think there would be an issue. Or it would blow over. Or it would just be 'Jeremy being Jeremy'

Where will this end?

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 19/12/2022 09:00

Vile human being, thinks he can get away with racist abuse and yet would probably deny White Male Privilege!

FartOutLoudDay · 19/12/2022 09:01

AntennaReborn · 19/12/2022 08:52

Who are the 9% who this OP is BU ???

My MIL is one of those who is obsessed by her dislike of Meghan. It is utterly bizarre. What she won’t appreciate is that her (and thousands like her) endless commentary under articles on FB will have emboldened the likes of Clarkson to think he can publish that with no repercussions.

Nogbreaks · 19/12/2022 09:01

I have people I dislike, including Clarkson,
who I have actually spent time with ( a work thing),
but there’s nothing on earth that would make me write something about him or anyone else that would even come
close to resembling the hatred he expressed in that column.

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TheaBrandt · 19/12/2022 09:03

Christ she’s mildly annoying and self absorbed but now thinking she has a bloody point about the vitriol directed against her.

TheaBrandt · 19/12/2022 09:04

He needs to be binned from tv and media he embodies the worst sort of person - voices from that demographic need to be replaced now

latetothefisting · 19/12/2022 09:04

Treaclemine · 19/12/2022 08:48

I'm pretty glad I never watched Game of Thrones, or read the books. George Martin and the makers of the series have fed that fantasy. Poor actress. Sensitivity readers and intimacy choreographers presumably not involved.
How many other men are applying that imagery to whom?

George RR Martin didn't just make up that scene out of thin air, just like he didn't randomly invent war, incest, murder, betrayal of guest rights etc!
The books (maybe not the dragons!) are all based on (a bit of a mish mash) of European history. Parading women through the streets to punish them actually happened. Its not even limited to medieval times- shaving a woman's head, tar and feathering her etc were all thi gs that happened during ww2 for women suspected of "collaborating" with the nazis.

I'm surprised everyone seems to think it's made up - the fact that it's based on actual history makes Clarksons comments much worse for me because he's basically saying he wants to go back to a time when women were lesser and weren't allowed to have an opinion.

Devoutspoken · 19/12/2022 09:04

Well maybe Clarke will help turn the tide in her favour

purpledalmation · 19/12/2022 09:05

Treaclemine · 19/12/2022 08:48

I'm pretty glad I never watched Game of Thrones, or read the books. George Martin and the makers of the series have fed that fantasy. Poor actress. Sensitivity readers and intimacy choreographers presumably not involved.
How many other men are applying that imagery to whom?

It wasn't just women. He is just as awful to men (think torture and literal emasculation). Bloody brilliant series!

Delectable · 19/12/2022 09:06

Camilla is patron of a women's charity against gender abuse and violence. William is chairman or so of the FA. He never spoke to protect Meghan nor does he speak against racism in football. So I'm not surprised Camilla had a party with Clarkson, Piers and other journalists who hack at Meghan for a living. Gives step parents a bad name, endangers women and emboldens racists.

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