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Nogbreaks · 19/12/2022 08:26

Feels Meghan has done to him to justify the vitriol and misogyny of that article he wrote where he’d like to see her naked and assaulted?

I mean WTF? How in earth did a major publication think that it was fine to publish his little sexual fantasy about hurting a woman like that?

I’m no fan of the Royals in any form, and could care less about their infighting, but why are we surprised that there is so much violence against women and girls when this kind of article by an influential man is seen as okay to write?
Where’s his description of a naked, vulnerable Harry being assaulted??

OP posts:
Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 07:34

‘‘“Meghan is... a different story. I hate her on a cellular level. At night, I’m unable to sleep as I lie there, grinding my teeth and dreaming of the day when she is made to parade naked through the streets of every town in Britain while the crowds chant, ‘Shame!’ and throw lumps of excrement at her.”

this is what he wrote

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 09:34

Beginning to realise why the Queen hung in as long as she did, obviously saw the writing in the wall…

SinnerBoy · 23/12/2022 11:10

Gina Yashere giving her opinion:

www.instagram.com/reel/CmXgWgnJ_Gi/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/12/2022 11:49

SinnerBoy · 23/12/2022 11:10

For those who doesn't have IG

@jeremyclarkson1 is a racist, woman hating cuntwaffle of the highest order.
And the fact that newspapers are publishing his hateful nonsense, & members of the royal family are hosting events attended by him & his ilk says A LOT.

T1Dmama · 23/12/2022 12:23

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 07:33

@T1Dmama a quick Google will help!

Thanks for taking time to respond.
I don’t need Google to know that he’s a generally vile guy. But thank you so much!
Ive since since a video about a games of thrones reference he made….
which doesn’t actually change my original comment in the slightest

SinnerBoy · 23/12/2022 13:03

Thanks, Mooncup. I haven't got IG, the video just played.

Virginiaplain · 23/12/2022 13:14

It will be interesting to see what ipso decide after the 17000 + complaints.
it’s nothing to do with the RF.

Blossomtoes · 23/12/2022 13:19

Nogbreaks · 22/12/2022 13:50

‘They don't need to say anything at all, obviously they wouldnt condone it.’

why is it obvious if they’ll complain about the suggestion that one DIL may have had Botox but refuse to comment when their other DIL is threatened with violence and have shit thrown at their naked body as she’s paraded in front of a howling mob?

It’s not a threat. It’s a fantasy, like Suella Braverman’s dream of seeing a plane full of asylum seekers take off for Rwanda. A deeply unpleasant fantasy based on a scene from Game of Thrones, but in no way a threat.

TheKeatingFive · 23/12/2022 13:29

Of course it's a threat. I can't believe people are this dense in their thinking.

Not in the sense that he's planning to do it, but in the sense that it dehumanises and degrades her. Aligns her with one of the depraved and nasty creations in recent popular culture. Makes her fair game.

Shes had death threats made against her and it's this kind of dehumanisation and vilification that emboldens these people.

The media have made people think of her as less than human. A plaything or a cipher for people's worst impulses. It's disgusting.

Blossomtoes · 23/12/2022 13:33

Not in the sense that he's planning to do it, but in the sense that it dehumanises and degrades her.

And you call me dense! At least I understand what the definition of threat is.

TheKeatingFive · 23/12/2022 13:38

And you call me dense! At least I understand what the definition of threat is.

🙄

i urge anyone who doesn't seem to understand the implications of this kind of material to imagine what they'd feel if it was written about a woman they cared about.

And then take it up a notch, reminding themselves that this woman has been in the receiving end of multiple death and violence threats already

SinnerBoy · 23/12/2022 14:46

Blossomtoes

It’s not a threat. It’s a fantasy, like Suella Braverman’s dream of seeing a plane full of asylum seekers take off for Rwanda. A deeply unpleasant fantasy based on a scene from Game of Thrones, but in no way a threat.

It's not a direct threat from Clarkson, but it's the sort of thing which inspire and emboldens dangerous nut jobs. Why do people think so badly of Meghan and Henry? It's because of the years long tidal wave of shit they've had aimed at them.

Jo Cox was murdered by a Nazi, who hated Guardian reader and left wingers, after years of reading radicalising nonsense. Diane Abbot has probably had more racist insults, rape threats and death threats than the rest of Parliament. This peaks every time there's a denigrating article about her.

It may not have crossed a legal line, but it's certainly a problem.

Roussette · 23/12/2022 14:54

Exactly. No one thinks that JC is actually going to do what he has written. But it emboldens others to think like this and then who knows.

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 15:04

‘i urge anyone who doesn't seem to understand the implications of this kind of material to imagine what they'd feel if it was written about a woman they cared about.’

that’s a really good way of looking at it.

TheaBrandt · 23/12/2022 15:26

Absolutely. It’s dangerous. It increases the risk for all of us. Mentally unstable people act on it. Two MPs have been killed already.

Roussette · 23/12/2022 15:27

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 15:04

‘i urge anyone who doesn't seem to understand the implications of this kind of material to imagine what they'd feel if it was written about a woman they cared about.’

that’s a really good way of looking at it.

It would be absolutely terrifying.

The nearest I've got to anything like this was a mad business associate many years ago who was targeting me, writing about me and stalking me (police and law firm involved) and honestly I felt physically sick with it. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't function. My nerves were completely shredded.
I have every sympathy with Meghan and this is why I defend the vile stuff she is subjected to.
No one, but NO ONE, deserves it.

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 15:38

this normalises the abuse of women.
we complain about violence in films and tv and porn desensitising men and boys - this is just another form of this.
from someone with a huge platform, someone very influential - all these privileged, angry old men who’ve had it pretty each up until now are finding it a struggle to have to start sharing the world with women and girls

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 15:38

Pretty easy…

minou123 · 23/12/2022 20:02

Readabookgroucho · 23/12/2022 15:38

this normalises the abuse of women.
we complain about violence in films and tv and porn desensitising men and boys - this is just another form of this.
from someone with a huge platform, someone very influential - all these privileged, angry old men who’ve had it pretty each up until now are finding it a struggle to have to start sharing the world with women and girls

💯

Now we have Lawrence Fox competing with Clarkson for Cunt of the Year Award.

These men really do hate women and girls

Roussette · 23/12/2022 21:47

www.thesun.co.uk/clarifications/20850273/jeremy-clarkson-the-sun/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1671822057

Why so late? A mealy mouthed apology. Only under pressure not by choice quite obviously

Blossomtoes · 23/12/2022 21:49

Pointless.

TheaBrandt · 23/12/2022 23:18

That statement is so weird. “We did something awful but look we’ve done random virtue signalling things too”.

Like a murderer in the dock arguing that he mowed his elderly neighbours lawn so…

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 23/12/2022 23:35

All the posters condemning Clarkson are using the word cunt.

Why not stop using a term that degenerates woman?

Blossomtoes · 24/12/2022 00:10

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 23/12/2022 23:35

All the posters condemning Clarkson are using the word cunt.

Why not stop using a term that degenerates woman?

We’ve reclaimed it.

Roussette · 24/12/2022 07:13

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 23/12/2022 23:35

All the posters condemning Clarkson are using the word cunt.

Why not stop using a term that degenerates woman?

What? I've never called anyone that (I don't think I've actually ever typed that word) and I very strongly condemn Clarkson