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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel I’m ‘paying’ for childcare because my friend is too mean?

217 replies

DMLady · 05/12/2022 19:12

I should preface this by saying this is a good friend; she’s very generous in some ways — and not at all generous in others. (She’d admit it too!) We also generally both help each other out with childcare whenever we can.

Anyway, we both have DDs, both in Y4 at school. DDs are good, but not best, friends.

I pay for a childminder 4 days a week but my friend (who isn’t remotely hard up) resents paying for childcare, so relies on after school clubs and friends and family. She and her DH both work, although her DH normally WFH. For various reasons, both my DH and I are at home full time at the moment — he’s WFH, and I’m trying to start my own business.

Next week, my friend and her DH are both busy with work on one particular day, and can’t pick their DD up from school. In the past, my friend would message me to see if I was picking my DD up from school; I’d say no, she’s at her childminder’s, and that would be the end of it. This time, though, she messaged to ask if DD was with her childminder on that particular day; I said yes, and friend replied, ‘oh, I was hoping you could have my DD then. Is that okay? The girls haven’t had a play date for ages.’ The thing is, because of the way she asked, I feel I wasn’t really given an option: she KNEW my DD was meant to be at her childminders but still asked me to have HER DD.

Anyway, partly because I felt I couldn’t say no (because of how she broached it) and partly because we try to help each other out when we can, I said okay, albeit reluctantly. I also thought perhaps my friend and her DH were out late (which would mean it would be really difficult for them to find someone to help), but it turns out they only need childcare until about 5, so I really don’t understand why she just couldn’t have asked another mum for a play date. The thing that REALLY irks me though is that my friend knows I still have to pay DD’s childminder, even if DD doesn’t go — so I feel as though I’m left out of pocket just because she’s too tight to pay for childcare herself.

AIBU?

To be fair, I know this is a real first world problem. I think I’m mainly just annoyed at myself for saying yes when I didn’t really want to. I guess the other thing that worries me is that because my DH and I are now both at home full time, we’ll be seen as the easy (and free!) childcare option going forward. I REALLY don’t want that!

OP posts:
MoveBitch · 05/12/2022 19:16

Honestly? I do think you can say yes then moan about it!

Just say no!!!

WhatLikeItsHard · 05/12/2022 19:17

Just reply back and say no. "Sorry no, DD is at her childminder that day and we'll be working."

And then maybe suggest some other dates for play dates.

AnotherAppleThief · 05/12/2022 19:17

Erm it's really weird that too said yes tbh. If you're not collecting your dd why would you pick her dd up? You're unavailable surely otherwise why would your dd be with a cm?

Lsquiggles · 05/12/2022 19:17

Just say you've changed your mind and send your DD to her childminder like planned, this is a fully reversable situation. She sounds cheeky and you did have a say in the matter, you just need to get better at saying no even when it's uncomfortable

Marmite27 · 05/12/2022 19:18

Just say, sorry no, my DD won’t be here for a play date.

PacificallyRequested · 05/12/2022 19:18

You really only have yourself to blame on this one. You could easily have said no.

DMLady · 05/12/2022 19:19

AnotherAppleThief · 05/12/2022 19:17

Erm it's really weird that too said yes tbh. If you're not collecting your dd why would you pick her dd up? You're unavailable surely otherwise why would your dd be with a cm?

I’m actually NOT unavailable (I’m at home at the moment), and my friend knows this. So my DD won’t be going to her childminder that day, and I’ve got both girls at mine…

OP posts:
CeciliaMars · 05/12/2022 19:19

Clearly YANBU, she is, but you should have just said no!!

DMLady · 05/12/2022 19:19

PacificallyRequested · 05/12/2022 19:18

You really only have yourself to blame on this one. You could easily have said no.

Yep! Am regretting saying yes now…

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MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 05/12/2022 19:20

Just say no in future. YABU.

DMLady · 05/12/2022 19:20

MoveBitch · 05/12/2022 19:16

Honestly? I do think you can say yes then moan about it!

Just say no!!!

Really? You’ve NEVER agreed to something then regretted it…?
Thanks for the constructive comment!

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NoDairyNoProblem · 05/12/2022 19:21

You should have said that’s a shame I can’t as DD is at the childminder like I said.

Its pointless to say yes and resent it.

AnotherAppleThief · 05/12/2022 19:21

DMLady · 05/12/2022 19:19

I’m actually NOT unavailable (I’m at home at the moment), and my friend knows this. So my DD won’t be going to her childminder that day, and I’ve got both girls at mine…

But she only knows thsi because you told her you're free to have her dd! I'm saying your answer should have been 'sorry I'm unavailable, that's why dd is at the cms'

Why are you so weird about this?

girlmom21 · 05/12/2022 19:21

Just say no. It's really easy.
It doesn't matter if you're at home. You use a childminder for your convenience.

Changingplace · 05/12/2022 19:22

Why did you say yes when your DD is due to go to the childminder?

Just say no your DD isn’t around for a play date because she’s at the childminder and leave it at that.

I can’t understand why you agreed to this.

Plmoknijbuhv · 05/12/2022 19:22

To be honest I don't understand why you agreed. Your daughter had plans at tyw childminder that you had paid for. I'm all for helping out where possible, but this didn't work for you at all? Why did you agree?

Rinatinabina · 05/12/2022 19:23

It’s ok, you’ve learned and now know what to watch out for. It happens and you won’t forget how annoyed you are with yourself for this. Just say “I really can’t, DD is at childminder so DH and I can work” , if you are trying to set up your own business thats work.

Takenoprisoner · 05/12/2022 19:23

I think she put you on the spot. In this sort of situations I find it useful to say something like, 'actually, thinking about it Maureen, I won't be able to have your dd. Got too much on at work.'

Why wouldn't you send your dd to CM if you've paid for it?

eternalopt · 05/12/2022 19:23

If it's next week, there's time to back track (unless you're daughter is really looking forward to it) Tell her something has come up/you forgot an appointment you have
so you need to rearrange play date sorry - if she's pretending its just a play date and not childcare she can't really moan - just one of those things

SpicyFoodRocks · 05/12/2022 19:23

Why would you take your child out of the childminder to look after hers? The mind boggles!

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 05/12/2022 19:24

No, you're paying for childcare because you need it while you are working.

The 'paying for childcare you're not using' part comes into play when you are (sadly, but understandably) too much of a pushover to say no to someone who is clearly taking the piss. No-one nornal and reasonable anyway would ask a mate to take both their children into the office 'for a playdate' - but that is precisely what this user person is doing.

"No, DD is in childcare because I'm working" is all you need to say. Any push back and you have your answer about your friend's true motives.

Changingplace · 05/12/2022 19:24

DMLady · 05/12/2022 19:19

Yep! Am regretting saying yes now…

So go back now and say, sorry no this doesn’t work for us because my DD won’t be here & I’m not available that day to do school pick up.

liarliarshortsonfire · 05/12/2022 19:25

Next time you'll know better. 'No' is a complete sentence. 'No sorry, that doesn't work for me' you don't need an excuse, just say no.

MoveBitch · 05/12/2022 19:25

DMLady · 05/12/2022 19:20

Really? You’ve NEVER agreed to something then regretted it…?
Thanks for the constructive comment!

Well no, because I'm not a pushover and have a strong command of the word no.

Which more people should have tbh

Ibouncetothebeat · 05/12/2022 19:26

You should have said no! I’ve made it clear to everyone, if I don’t have my own child I will not be looking after anyone else’s. Especially if I’m paying for childcare! Stand up for yourself and just say no next time.