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To think someone must be able to do something - part two

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PurpleLampShades · 14/11/2022 19:22

I’m starting a new thread as advised by some posters and because the first thread was a great source of support for me (link to first thread here).

Long story short - DS (16) is in a “relationship” with a woman 11 years older than him that I believe started before he turned 16 at the end of July, though they both denied that to police and SS. I tried everything I could think of to stop it but he walked out of the house to stay with her at the end of September and I’m struggling to maintain contact with him. I’ve barely been able to see or speak to him since he left. She has shown very controlling behaviour and he is slowly becoming isolated from me, his friends and hobbies etc. Social services are currently involved, doing an assessment, but have already said it’s very difficult to do much without him consenting to input/intervention so I think they’re trying to prepare me for a poor outcome of the assessment. I am trying to focus on keeping my relationship with him going and ensuring he knows I’m here whenever he needs me and can come home whenever he needs no questions asked.

OP posts:
longleggitybeastie · 01/03/2023 21:51

Sounds like you've got just the right approach Purple! BTW if you're a dog person, I've seen some local borrow my dog schemes in some areas - matching those who are struggling with elements ownership and those who aren't in a position to own - no idea if they are any good but worth some enquiries?

Thedogscollar · 02/03/2023 00:06

Good luck purple 💜

SheilaWilcox · 02/03/2023 00:48

MardyHa · 28/02/2023 18:46

Good luck Purple, we'll all be thinking of you.

Obviously we know that his 'girlfriend' is awful, due to all of the above. But you'd think if, nothing else, that the fact she's with someone that has now become so alienated from his mother, his friends, his college course that he's needed social services interaction to the point of meeting his mum at a contact centre - that you might think 'maybe this relationship is not the best thing for my (ahem) partner.' - And that social services, even the police, might then see that that in itself is somewhat proof of a coercive relationship. Ugh. I'm so sorry for you. I don't think I phrased the above very well.

I know right? Can you imagine going out with someone that has all this going on and not thinking 'maybe I need to back off and give him space?' But as you say, we know she's awful for grooming a teenager in the first place.

BTW - I too think a rescue cat is a great idea - lol

kateandme · 02/03/2023 01:35

i think for now.before he starts counciling its good idea not to mention it. for people therapy is a really big thing. and with how things are at the moment im not sure whether he would assume you new? and it might be one of those vulnerable persons " how does she no im in therapy.what are they telling her.who can i trust.are they telling her what im saying/doing" kind of thikning.

but also therapy is hugely beneifical and made so much easier when people are supporting you through it. your opening your soul.so if he is going home to someone i presume will once again be telling "not to talk" or shitting on it it wont be nice for him either. often therapy can make the person more raw,exposed and tired. so somehow ina few weeks having your support with it,him doing it will actually be really bloody nice for him.

i think a pet might be highly beneficial for you @PurpleLampShades obviously you have to feel you can handle it,but it might be just the things to make sure you can handle it if that makes sense.
an older rescue dog,some company,purpose,to be loved and to love back. it could be the very things you need. you could give some little thing a place of safety and in itself make your own too.

might be worth a thought. might even be a really good topic for you and son.you could talk of all the rescues at the moment and what he suggests. could even come with you? or would make him feel involved still,to talk about what he thinks would be best,make him feel important in the decision.

just put zero pressure on yourself this first time. you will soon see the ground on which your walking. just let it flow. you just need to be you. dont plan or it will be stiltered. just walkin their with the mantra "im his mum.its all i need to be and it bloody good enough" "i am me and its good enoguh!" "i love him"

BesidetheseasideXxx · 02/03/2023 17:24

I also agree talking about a potential pet is a good idea and to leave subjects like counselling alone. I think I would have to say something like "it's a bit weird meeting in here but I'm really happy to see you" just to address the elephant in the room from the start, as it isn't really normal to have to see your mum at a contact centre.

Hope it goes well xx

RandomMess · 02/03/2023 18:49
Flowers

Cats are less work than dogs and we have an "easy" dog.

I find the SW attitude so disappointing, would it be the same if the sexes were reversed? You have to hope she gets bored of your DS soon.

TotallyScouting · 02/03/2023 19:12

Why not go on some pet adoption pages and take some screenshots of some super cute ones to show and discuss with him? It might be a good, fairly neutral discussion topic. And even the older teenage boys I know melt and go a bit soppy when they see pictures of animals. Also if you did get one it might tempt him to meet at the house. Though obviously only if you are a cat/dog person…

Jaxinthebox · 03/03/2023 16:31

Just wanted to add that I will be thinking of you tomorrow.

SheilaWilcox · 03/03/2023 22:43

Also, pets are amazing listeners and never tell anyone!

I have both cats and dogs and agree cats are easier - and easier to get looked after if you want to go on holiday.

Good luck tomorrow.

L1ttledrummergirl · 03/03/2023 22:50

Good luck for tomorrow @PurpleLampShades, I hope it goes well for you.Flowers

Thedogscollar · 03/03/2023 23:42

I hope you have a lovely time with your son tomorrow@PurpleLampShades
They know deep down how much you love them. Keep going stay strong. X

FightingFatAt49 · 04/03/2023 00:40

Will be keeping you in my thoughts tomorrow @PurpleLampShades 💐
I have two teenage boys and can't even imagine the hell you're going through, please take care of yourself too.

Thedogseyesareintense · 04/03/2023 20:49

Really hope it went well purple - or at least was a start that you can both build on.

Badger1970 · 04/03/2023 21:08

I hope that today was a start to building some kind of relationship together, even if it was awkward for you both.

L1ttledrummergirl · 04/03/2023 22:17

I hope he turned up and that it went well. I was thinking of you today.Flowers

Loafbeginsat60 · 05/03/2023 16:33

I hope your visit went well and you managed to chat to him? X
💐

TotallyScouting · 05/03/2023 20:06

Have thought of you a great deal over this past couple of days. I really hope it went well 💐💐

PurpleLampShades · 06/03/2023 11:59

Thanks everyone, for the thoughts and good wishes. The visit went okay I think. It was SO good to see him after so many weeks with no contact, I can’t even tell you. I know I was missing him but didn’t realise just how much until saw him. I welled up a little bit to be honest.

He was ten minutes late so I was panicking that he wouldn’t turn up but he did. He looked tired and like he’s lost a little bit of weight to me, and he was a bit tense and not very talkative to start with but did seem to relax after a while. I even got a hug at the end. I took the chess set and the escape room thing for him to choose from. We played a bit of chess and chatted about little things, life in general - the football results, some stuff in the news, films etc. I was very careful not to go anywhere near the topics of gf, counselling, college and he didn’t say anything about them either. It meant there was a giant elephant in the room but we both tried to ignore it it seems. I have no idea what the gf thinks about us meeting. I hope she is being supportive but given how tense/anxious he was at the beginning I’m not so sure. He seemed a lot more hesitant in conversation than he usually is, almost like he’s thinking through what to say before he says it. But then, I may have appeared like that too I suppose, because I was trying so hard not to say anything that would upset or trigger him.

His phone was in his pocket to start, on silent, but I could hear it buzzing every so often, then he left it on the table. I’d estimate in the hour we were there he got over twenty messages. Of course, they might not have all been from her but it’s likely, given he’s not really got any friends left. He didn’t check it every time it buzzed but I would say most times he did. He did say sorry, that he just had to check and reply a couple of times. I just tried to busy myself with the chess board or something else each time so he didn’t feel like I was watching him. Every time it buzzed I could see him tense up a little. Whether that was from the actual messaging or that he was expecting me to say something I don’t know. Perhaps a combination of both. I wanted to say something but bit my tongue. Why can’t she just leave him alone for an hour? What does she think is going to happen?

It was the new phone that she got him. I debated with myself over asking for the number but decided to leave it for now. He didn’t offer it either so maybe it’s too soon for that. I would love to be able to text with him again though.

I had a bit of a cry in the car afterwards. I don’t even know why really. It was all a bit overwhelming and maybe it was a release of the emotion I had to hold back whilst seeing him. I just wanted to bundle him in the car and take him home with me.

OP posts:
SheilaWilcox · 06/03/2023 12:12

It sounds like you did brilliantly by staying away from awkward subjects. Well done.
You made it easy to be with you, whilst she makes his life difficult.
With luck, things will get even easier with time.
when are you meant to see him next?

FightingFatAt49 · 06/03/2023 12:32

Well done @PurpleLampShades
It sounds incredibly tough, but you did great!!

lbnblbnb · 06/03/2023 12:34

@PurpleLampShades well done, so glad you saw him but I get how difficult it was.

Badger1970 · 06/03/2023 12:42

I hope you're really proud of yourself for keeping things neutral and I'm not surprised you broke down afterwards. You're both treading on eggshells around each other which is alien to both of you.

Hang in there Flowers

Jaxinthebox · 06/03/2023 12:58

welldone OP, what a tense time it must have been for you.

Thinking of you and hoping it gets easier for you and your DS.

RandomMess · 06/03/2023 13:11

Well done, glad you had a hug and completely normal to need a cry after that.

Flowers
Dwrcegin · 06/03/2023 13:28

Awesome OP, glad you got to see him. I think you did amazingly well, and its totally fine to cry after that.

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