To tell colleagues what happened with boss? Am I allowed to say if I’m still employed?

[SofieM0]

Grievance at work partially upheld. Advised (by friends, peers, other HR colleagues) not to appeal as it’s basically end of my career, outcome unlikely to change and I’d have to resign anyway.
Grievance against boss so he definitely has influence. It was a drunken verbal and physical attack, witnessed by many. I can’t stay in the job. Feel let down by company not to mention the working relationship is untenable for me.
AIBU to tell colleagues (inc other female direct reports to him) why I’m leaving, am I even allowed to whilst I’m still in employment? What about new employers, can I tell them the truth whilst I job search?
I’ve asked my HR but they’ve said they can’t discuss that until the grievance is formally closed (believe pushing me to not appeal).

An absolutely brilliant update. Thanks so much for seeing it through. So many would (understandably) want to walk away and lick their wounds.

Brilliant to have an update OP. Thank you!

Great outcome, apart from the other woman assaulted of course. Hope no-one touches him with a barge pole now, that his reputation precedes him wherever he goes.

Shame you can't name & shame the company!

I remember your thread at the beginning.

Bloody well done you, when so many told you to put up and shut up.

I hope he goes to prison for his second attack, what an absolute predator.

And what CF the company were, come back, even though we fucked up, oh and on less money....jokers

This is potential constructive dismissal - you are leaving because of the company/boss’s behaviour. Speak to a lawyer asap. Do you have employment insurance as part of your home insurance? If so they will set you up with someone to speak to.

Good on you for pushing through with it all! Means you’ve helped other women too. But your whole thread also goes to show that mostly women are still made out to be the problem and men just get away with whatever they like.

I love a happy ending! Well done @SofieM0

Well done OP amazing update. I love reading threads like this where the mumsnet vipers come together to support!!

@Keepingitmoving

Read the full thread, your comment is pointless, as this is the outcome.

Oh well done @SofieM0 ! Lovely to read your updates.

The utter cheek of them to offer you a starting salary! 😮

How come you haven’t reported to the police? It’s not about him just having one notch on his record from your colleague, but having an accurate picture in his record of his repeated behaviour. You never know who you might be helping out in future by having that picture built up record - he sounds like a nasty piece of work.

I remember reading your OP way back in April, and I'm glad you got a resolution - sounds like they couldn't pay you off fast enough!!
But your poor colleague ( & probably others too) who had to be assaulted by him because they wouldn't deal with him appropriately the first time. I hope she sues them to high heaven!!!

Great result OP - but awful that you and your colleague had to go through this at all.

I there was a ''physical attack'' in front of witnesses it is no longer just an employment dispute. It is also a police matter.

You need legal advice because you would be entitled to a settlement if they want to avoid an employment tribunal case and a police report...

''he was drunk and didn’t mean any harm’ quote from the outcome letter''.

Anyone who comes to work drunk and who attacks a colleague should be immediately suspended and then sacked.

Your company sound like they are trying to cover this up and you have a strong case against them.

Don't just accept what they are telling you.

I would male a police report then resign and claim constructive dismissal.

Their internal process is not fit for purpose it seems so you are better off making it clear you will make a tribunal claim and see whether they then offer you a decent settlement.

Have a great day!

Read the OP’s update. It’s moved far past her original post and the 6 month NDA came to an end already!

ACAS, ACAS, & thrice ACAS.

Good to see that you are already engaged.
Use the template.
Despite the tight deadlines & limited window to act, persist in finding an employment lawyer. A good post @Level75.

Grievance processes are a hard grind for everyone involved.

So grit your teeth & persist with this.

The original incident was bad enough & you have done the right thing by speaking up. You need to be minded that once the official processes have concluded, recommendations made & implemented, you have choice to stay or go.

If you cannot accept & settle with the grievance outcome, then it is better to make a clean break, to have a fresh start. IMO. But do not make a tactical move without the advice of an employment lawyer. A generous settlement is to be negotiated.

‘a company that publically prides itself on ED&I.’

Um, yes, well, this is the real end of employee relations.
ED&I is part policy, part aspiration, part PR, part market share gambit.
All the rainbows in the world don’t make employees behave better & pragmatic action is the name of the game.

What is it about these companies and not sacking the person who is in the wrong, or committed a crime, it's always the victim who goes?
DH submitted a grievance against his CEO, it was found in his favour for 8 of the 10 points, but he was the one who was paid off and had to leave a job he had loved for over 10 years.
I sincerely hope this man lands in court, and your experience gets brought up to show a pattern of behaviour.

Ugh, Zombies!

Brilliant 👏 👏 It must have felt amazing telling them to F off.

I would wait until I got another job. Then email a few select colleagues the outcome of the grievance on your last day.

If something like that happened where I work, the world and his wife would know all about it within 2 working days.

Seen the updates now. Great to hear the arse has been sacked.

This!

I am so happy for you OP!!!!! Well done! So glad you are in a safe and comfortable work environment now.

Amazing! Well done OP

Such an awesome, kick ass update! Hope you are happily employed in a new role.