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To say there are some decent men

717 replies

Poppyscone · 30/09/2021 15:31

I know there are many threads about how shit men are. It may be a shit partner not helping, abused by a stranger, sexism etc etc etc.

But to say some men are decent. My DH said this morning re the policemen just sentenced “we men are mostly basically shit aren’t we”
I told him he was one of the good ones and the good ones need to carry on trying to challenging these men who basically hate women
My DH had challenged many men over their behaviour towards women including dropping friendships.

I have epilepsy and DH had always had my back and supported me. Done more then his fare share with kids including most night feeds as well as working full time which I can do. Letting me sleep and recover after a seizure and taking charge without complaining.

He always make me feel good about myself, never pesters for sex and is a good dad.

Yep sure he had his faults he is a bit disorganised and he seems to think dirty clothes belong on the bedroom floor (but does pick them up when asked)
He snores like a machine gun and I have to wear earplug but on the whole he is a decent bloke and I am sure there are many more out there. I would just like to here about them

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AnyFucker · 03/10/2021 22:06

My anger would get the better of me tbh if I felt a man was out to intimidate me

Yeah. If only Sarah Everard had got angry she would be alive today, yeah ? Fuck off.

PurpleDaisies · 03/10/2021 22:08

@Tevion28

I was talking about attacks carried out on people who are out walking etc not asleep none of what I've said is in reference to skinnymirror and her moms tragic death.
Like Sarah everard? Think an alarm and anger would have helped her?
Tevion28 · 03/10/2021 22:09

Yes anyfucker I truly deserve the abuse for simply saying I would do what I can to defend myself. God you lot are highly strung and very good at twisting words.

PurpleDaisies · 03/10/2021 22:10

@Tevion28

Yes anyfucker I truly deserve the abuse for simply saying I would do what I can to defend myself. God you lot are highly strung and very good at twisting words.
No. We’re pointing out what your words actually mean in practice.
AnyFucker · 03/10/2021 22:10

Yep, you got it

SkinnyMirror · 03/10/2021 22:10

@Tevion28

I was talking about attacks carried out on people who are out walking etc not asleep none of what I've said is in reference to skinnymirror and her moms tragic death.
But don't you see that it's all part of the same issue?

If more men genuinely respected women and viewed them as equals then we would start to see a difference.
As long as men see women as property, as conquests or as people who are worth less than men then we will not see a marked change in how women are treated.

Whether you are being sexually harassed, raped or murdered by a stranger or your partner it's all part of the same problem.

If you are suggesting that women aren't doing a good enough job of protecting themselves then i'm afraid you are part of the problem too.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 22:11

@Tevion28

I was talking about attacks carried out on people who are out walking etc not asleep none of what I've said is in reference to skinnymirror and her moms tragic death.
So Sarah should have just got angry and said no?

Is that how you think sexual assault works?

My first ban is coming up for this but fuck off you victim blaming misogynist arsehole.

How DARE you. Jesus Christ.

YOU have your own thread literally called 'what is wrong with men' and yet you dare to write this on a thread about such a serious topic?!

Fuck me, what a tone deaf woman hater.

Go hang out on Reddit with some redpillers, they'll LOVE you.

Tevion28 · 03/10/2021 22:11

Sarah Everard thought she was dealing with a trusted officer circumstances where different to been accosted in the street by a randomer

youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 22:11

@Tevion28

Sarah Everard thought she was dealing with a trusted officer circumstances where different to been accosted in the street by a randomer
Stop victim blaming. You are making yourself sound like an idiot.
SkinnyMirror · 03/10/2021 22:12

@Tevion28

Sarah Everard thought she was dealing with a trusted officer circumstances where different to been accosted in the street by a randomer
What the actual fuck..... I'm speechless
PurpleDaisies · 03/10/2021 22:12

@Tevion28

Sarah Everard thought she was dealing with a trusted officer circumstances where different to been accosted in the street by a randomer
Ok.

I was walking home alone not feeling afraid when I was mugged by a big bloke with a knife. Nobody around at all.

What exactly do you think I should have done?

Tevion28 · 03/10/2021 22:13

Fgs where have I said women are not doing a good job of protecting themselves show me those words

SkinnyMirror · 03/10/2021 22:13

@Tevion28

Sarah Everard thought she was dealing with a trusted officer circumstances where different to been accosted in the street by a randomer
Do you think rapists and murderers have a big flashing light above their head so we can identify them??
youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 22:13

@Tevion28

Sarah Everard thought she was dealing with a trusted officer circumstances where different to been accosted in the street by a randomer
So when accosted in the street by a randomer, we should just have made more fuss and we'd have been ok? Are you for real? You think that stops sexual assault? You don't think fight / flight / freeze are all equally likely reactions all for self preservation?

As a victim of such an incident I would be glad to be deleted for a hearty fuck you.

I hope you don't have daughters, I really don't.

Not sure what's more scary, that or the idea of you having a son.

Tevion28 · 03/10/2021 22:19

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SkinnyMirror · 03/10/2021 22:25

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LexMitior · 03/10/2021 22:25

Well, it seems that one of the Met who worked with Sarah Everard's killer has now been charged with rape. He's in court in the morning.

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OhWhyNot · 03/10/2021 22:25

Oh no we express our concerns, opinions and back up opinions with information

And this makes us witches

Right ….

EspressoDoubleShot · 03/10/2021 22:26

@Tevion28

Jesus its a witches coven here
Yes that’s the kind of sentiment women need to read We express ourselves candidly and. We are a coven Of course all plays into the be nice Don’t complain about men. Don’t be getting all vexatious and annoyed or you’ll be like witches
SkinnyMirror · 03/10/2021 22:28

@Tevion28

You can only get a decent conversation outside of mumsnett so many keyboard warriors on here. In real life my words would never be twisted like they have on here. Bore off the lot of ya
I'm what way have your words been twisted? We can only go off what you've written.
youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 22:29

@Tevion28

Jesus its a witches coven here
You are a joke.

You posted for support literally with a thread called 'what is wrong with men' then when women don't agree with you on something else you call them witches.

You know what's almost as damaging men who hate women?

Women who hate women.

Off you go to Reddit. Seriously, they'll love you.

Go blame victims there.

You've shown no compassion or empathy whatsoever. Terrifying you're a parent.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 22:30

@Tevion28

You can only get a decent conversation outside of mumsnett so many keyboard warriors on here. In real life my words would never be twisted like they have on here. Bore off the lot of ya
I can only assume your 'real life' is full with misogynists or idiots in that case. You don't sound used to being challenged sensibly or robustly.

Maybe there's an alarm for that.

Tevion28 · 03/10/2021 22:30

Oh and I don't have a thread called what is wrong with men.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 22:31

Imagine living in 2021 and calling women who don't agree with you 'witches' 😂

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