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Donald has barricaded himself in the WH and we have Georgia on our minds. (Trump thread #113)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/11/2020 09:31

Will Donald pardon the turkeys or will the turkeys pardon Donald?

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4072846-He-can-thcream-and-thcream-until-he-s-sick-but-the-US-has-taken-its-future-back-Trump-thread-112?watched=1&msgid=101645744#101645744

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AcrossthePond55 · 19/11/2020 21:55

@MoonJelly

If we start with the fiction there's a "justice" system in eiher country, then it's not going to be improved if defendants can't be represented.

But Trump isn't a defendant here, he's bringing the cases. And I'm reasonably sure the same principle applies in the US that applies here, that although lawyers have a duty to present their client's case, they don't have any duty to present blatant lies as the truth. They certainly don't have the duty to act as Giuliani did in a recently reported case: he was suing states X and Y based on evidence of alleged misconduct in state Z's election. He didn't choose to sue state Z, because they went solidly Republican. You can guess which way X and Y went.

Spot on.

If some random person filed as many lawsuits with spurious claims backed up by nothing but innuendo and lies, they'd be branded a 'vexatious litigant' by the various jurisdictions where multiple suits have been filed. Both Scrotus and Rudy qualify IMHO.

tobee · 19/11/2020 21:57

@DGRossetti

I wonder what would happen if the whole election were to be declared invalid ? Because as far as I can see that is possibly Trumps end game, in some sort of assumption that makes him president by default ?

Only an invalid election produces no result - by definition it's invalid.

Surely the law regarding this would be that Nancy Pelosi would be president in January? Or have I totally misunderstood?

(President Pelosi; Trump's worse nightmare! Grin)

tobee · 19/11/2020 21:58

Ohh I hadn't refreshed the page and see my above post had already been answered

tobee · 19/11/2020 21:59

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

But at that point, he and Pence are no longer in office after 20th January 2021, and Pelosi is acting President and calls a new election.

So does anyone know how that would work? Timescale? The same candidates?

DuncinToffee · 19/11/2020 22:06

I think this link has already been posted but I like the pants in fire ratings (from Last Week Tonight)

www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/10/pamela-geller/debunking-hammer-and-scorecard-election-fraud-cons/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 19/11/2020 22:11

New thread - incase we need it before tomorrow.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4084369-Figures-Don-t-Lie-But-Liars-Do-Figure-Trump-thread-114?watched=1

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lifesabitchandthenyoudie · 19/11/2020 22:35

Can I just pop in to say how satisfying it is to see so many Terry Pratchett fans we have on this thread... I salute you; I couldn’t have thought of such great names for my own 💋👍

TheNorthWestPawsage · 19/11/2020 23:14

Joe’s getting on with it while the Orange Oaf watches tv and the world move on.

President-elect Joe Biden is meeting tomorrow with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in Wilmington, Delaware, per people familiar. It will be the first in-person meeting between the three Democratic leaders.

twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1329522245568499712?s=21

Biden Says He’s Picked Treasury Secretary, Announcement Soon
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-19/biden-says-he-s-picked-treasury-secretary-announcement-soon

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 19/11/2020 23:23

VP-elect Kamala Harris will also be at this meeting tomorrow, per a transition official, so it's actually Joe, Kamala, Chuck and Nancy ...
What's striking is that until 14 years ago, the meeting of a president-elect, VP-elect and any congressional leaders would have been all-male. Speaker Pelosi has been the only woman in those meetings since then. That's changing now with Harris heading to the vice presidency.
twitter.com/jeneps/status/1329532849310064640?s=21

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Blueberries0112 · 20/11/2020 01:19

www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/trump-democrats-election/index.html how revengeful.

thesunwillout · 20/11/2020 09:16

@Nancydrawn re Seth Meyers

I bloody love him and have watched him from the UK right thru this year.

Lweji · 20/11/2020 09:25

It's official for Georgia now.

thesunwillout · 20/11/2020 09:28

@Lweji

There's a new thread, the link is above.
I only just saw it.

Lweji · 20/11/2020 09:31

Thanks. Between yesterday evening and this morning I had forgotten about it!

ApolloandDaphne · 20/11/2020 13:11

It's just getting ridiculous now. The whole world is laughing at him.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/11/2020 13:37

This week's Private Eye has devoted a page to mocking him.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/11/2020 17:07

Ending #113 thread here.

Come on over to:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4084369-Figures-Don-t-Lie-But-Liars-Do-Figure-Trump-thread-114

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/11/2020 17:08

BIDEN

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/11/2020 17:08

AND HARRIS

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 20/11/2020 17:09

WILL BE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT COME JANUARY 20th.

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AcrossthePond55 · 20/11/2020 17:27

And so we bid all a fond farewell

AcrossthePond55 · 20/11/2020 17:27

As we move to the new thread

AcrossthePond55 · 20/11/2020 17:27

In which (hopefully) Scrotus finally gets the message and SCRAMS!!!!!

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