4 people sentenced to 3 weeks in prison for breaking quarantine

[mosquitofeast]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-52286369

or 6 weeks if they broke quarantine twice.

AIBU to think thank goodness the rules are being enforced, and this should be happening far more widely.

Fines are massive as well, ten thousand £

This is what we need, a bit of teeth in the regulations

How far are people away from wanting dedicated Covid quarantine establishments?

Covid Concentration Camps by another name. It terrifies me.

@iklboo

How far are people away from wanting dedicated Covid quarantine establishments?

Covid Concentration Camps by another name. It terrifies me.

I'm sure a lot of people are in favour. I remember reading posts on here where people thought the Chinese methods were a good idea.

@ReslpsaLoquiturinterAlia
I find your first post in response to mine quite offensive as you are quite happy to make judgements on my beliefs from a few lines written on an Internet forum. You know nothing about me, and I am not going to give you the satisfaction of answering your questions/statements about what I may have seen or experienced, or how I feel about the current situation.
The only thing I can say with any certainty is that you come across as a bit of a knob.

Quelle surprise at the disappearing (GF) OP.

I wish they actually enforced the rules for non-payment if child maintenance. Oh yeah, that would be hard Love how some rules are adhered to strictly but others, not so much.

Do you want to be potentially dead (or face long term Covid lung damage) but retaining your human rights and freedoms?

Yes. That is a risk, because the chances of most people dying or suffering long-term lung damage from this are very slim, I am more than happy to take because human rights and freedoms are what make life worth living. I've lived in police states before, not by choice, I'm amazed at how many would willingly accept it for the stupid and erroneous illusion of 'safety' but then, that's how such regimes manage to get started and come to power. It was survival, not living, more like. You just change the name of what you're being forced to do it for - Virus, Religion, 'Democracy', Greater Good, etc. All that's different is the name. You're never 'safe' in such regimes, quite the opposite.

@EmbarrassedUser

I wish they actually enforced the rules for non-payment if child maintenance. Oh yeah, that would be hard Love how some rules are adhered to strictly but others, not so much.

Exactly! 'We're all in this together', as long as it's Covid, not social justice, tackling poverty and inequality, endemic sexism and downright misogyny in some areas. Those don't effect everyone . . . oh, wait . . . .

@uniglowooljumper

I appreciate and see your interpretation and concerns. However with the current ongoing Covid global pandemic I think the UK has thus far been relaxed and extremely lenient to allowed Brits to apply common sense Covid safety parameters.

We in the UK like USA etc can possibly see a correlation between relaxed carefree indifference and elevated Covid statistics.

The UK with recent democratic political electoral rights of self determination is not what I would consider a hard line dictatorship as inferred in your post of overseas nations. These English criminal laws are different from those you mention because they are (in line with global pandemic norms) to prevent the electorate from suffering Covid pain and suffering and not only lives but also livelihoods. Even if medically you are not impacted - what about your livelihood? We are super tolerant in the UK and have laws to protect many freedoms including other lifestyles choices. The UK apart from previous WW2 (I guess) have never imposed requirements for the people to wear and behave accordingly including wearing what is deemed norms through the globe facing this ongoing medical war.

Do not mix this up with encroachment of other human rights and freedoms as we should all favour the right for damage limitation and increased safety facing an invisible public enemy. This is for both lives and livelihoods.

@Reedwarbler You are correct. She is. She made some nasty comments about people on disability benefits which MN deleted.

At the start of all this i stood somewhere in the middle After the comments ive seen and the attitudes towards disabled people, those with medical conditions, PTSD re masks, i started posting on the other threads.

Its a bit like Labour alienating their voters i suppose. After watching Tories say on here that Labour alienated their voters its been almost laughable to watch @ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia + co doing the same thing. And i would say that the post about disability benefits betrayed what her politics are. So apart from a few great posters like @MrsTerryPratchett and @LangClegsInSpace and a couple ive found more support on the other threads due to feeling alienated.

incidentally im still waiting for the answer about Dominic Cummings

• and a couple of others who have also been very supportive of those who are struggling.

@ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia

Do you want to be potentially dead (or face long term Covid lung damage) but retaining your human rights and freedoms?

In a nutshell, yes.

Even if medically you are not impacted - what about your livelihood?

My livelihood was wiped out the minute lockdown was announced in March, @ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia

Please don't talk to me about livelihoods and Covid.

"Do you want to be potentially dead (or face long term Covid lung damage) but retaining your human rights and freedoms?"

The thing is there are lots of ways you can end up dead (not just potentially) or face long term lung damage, indeed damage to any of your organs. They existed before Covid and continue. We're just not usually aware of them as they aren't discussed in various media to the extent the effects of Covid are.

So you could, in fact the chances aren't particularly small over a lifetime, give up your human rights and freedoms and still suffer long term damange. And you absolutely will end up dead sooner or later.

The way some people are going on, you'd think we weren't all going to end up dead one way or another, anyway @amicissimma