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.......for seething with anger at new (ish) aupair

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kittywits · 29/09/2007 09:18

ok new aupair started at end of August. I have 6 dc's 9yrs to 5months. I know it's a lot of work. She's never expected to look after them on her own, just generally help me out.

She's English, has friends why we live, so has a social life etc. She doesn't stop bloody yaking either and is always in my space etc.

There are many ways in which she's great. cooking, cleaning, keen to learn.

When I employed her she didn't tell me she smoked, now I don't mind this too much as I do have a roll up at the end of the day when the dc's are in bed.

She however, smokes at every given opportunity (outside). What she does in her own time is her business, but it's really starting to piss me off that she goes out and smokes when she's supposed to be 'working'.

This morning kind of did it for me.
It's my birthday today and she'd said that she would look after the kids and I could just pretend I wasn't there iyswim. That's great. Now I've been in the house all this time. She's been out clubbing last night and is obviously worse for wear. I go into the kitchen to find the baby all on his own, a little upset and sitting in a shitty nappy.

I call and call for the aupair, no answer.

Of course she's outside having a fag and texting her mates. So I call her in and tell her this is not ok. That looking aftr the kids means being there and that I don't feel happy leaving them in her 'care'.
I also said that I didn't want her to smoke and text her mates during the hours she's "working". She gets plenty of time off.
I also asked her whether she could see my pov and that if she felt she couldn't comply with this then we'd have to think about things.

She's obviously mighty hungover which also pisses me off as we had arranged ages ago that she would give me a break today and she knw she'd have to be on the ball.

Anyway am I being unreasonable about the smoking/texting thing or am I a mean old witch now that I've turned 40 ?

OP posts:
eleusis · 01/10/2007 17:30
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blueshoes · 01/10/2007 20:17

Hi Kitty, just emailed you my questionnaire and house rules. Tbh, they are based on eleusis' . Can't say I thought about the sex in our bedroom point though

tribpot · 01/10/2007 20:24

eleusis, Junie hellos to you! And your list of rules is not so far-fetched; one of my friends going way back was once in the house when the nanny (for the younger kids - who weren't there) decided to throw a party. She had to barricade herself in her room whilst god knows what went on downstairs, but one of the key features of that was the nanny shagging her 'boyfriend' (he was actually engaged to someone else at the time) in the parents' bed. You would think this didn't need to be spelt out ...

eleusis · 01/10/2007 20:29

Hiya Trib. How are you?

tribpot · 01/10/2007 20:33

Not so bad thank you! (sorry for thread hijack) How are you doing? Hope Junie peace is with you (it ain't with me, so I'm wondering where it's gone!)

eleusis · 01/10/2007 20:35

What is Junie peace? Is this a cult?

tribpot · 01/10/2007 20:37

Errrr, no that is just wishing that we fellow Junie 2005ers (I know ds came a bit early but he is within our count) are at peace! I hope!

eleusis · 01/10/2007 20:42

I know. Just kidding. Actually DS is in fact a ver mellow peaceful happy chappy kind of guy (quite unlike big sis the terror).

Okay, should stop hijacking now. Sorry, Kitty.

kittywitch · 01/10/2007 22:43

Oh it's ok, I like coming here and seeing what's occuring!I now have to trawl the aupair lists!! Not now though!

Weegle · 02/10/2007 16:15

Here's our list of preliminary questions, it may be of help to you...

What is your full name, date of birth and home address?
What have you been doing the last few years?
Why do you want to be an au pair?
From what date would you be available to work and how long do you plan to stay?
Why do you want to come to the UK?
How would you describe yourself?
What interests you to the role we are offering?
Have you looked after children/babies before? If so, please give details e.g. ages, responsibilities etc. What was your favourite part of looking after them?
What experience do you have of household duties? Are there any areas of housework you are not happy to do or areas you are not confident in which you would need extra supervision?
What are your hobbies/interests?
What do you plan to do in your spare time when you are with us?
What is your current level of English - conversational and written? Can you, for example, chat on the phone, understand simple instructions?
Do you intend to take English language lessons when in UK?
What food do you like? What food do you not like? What is your favourite meal?
Do you have any allergies/health concerns? Describe your health in the last year.
Please give a brief description of your family, who you live with, your role within your family etc.
What do you plan to do after your stay?
Do you drive?
Are you happy to change nappies?
What sort of music do you like listening to?
Have you stayed long periods of time abroad before?
Can you swim, would you be happy to take our baby with mum there at the side of the pool?
Do you have funds for your flight to the UK?
Do you have any friends/relatives in the UK? If so, where do they live?
What references are you able to provide? Please include their relationship to you and contact details including email address.
Is there anything else you would like to tell us about yourself? Or any questions for us.
Are there any aspects of the role that you would like further explanation on?
Please attach a few photos of yourself, maybe with your family and together with any children you might have looked after in the past. This bit is really important - a picture tells a thousand words.

I then follow up with other questions after replies to this. If someone can be bothered to answer my long list of Q's then I think it is a good sign!

I also second aupair world

kittywitch · 02/10/2007 16:21

She's leaving today.
I'm glad but juat a tad nervous as now i've got all 6 on my own and haven't had a chance to delve into aupairworld/ gumtree etc!!
I've learnt alot from this experience LOL

Thankyou all so much for you advice, support and most importantly lists, rules and questions!!

Pollyanna · 02/10/2007 16:37

kitty I live in Brighton and know someone who is live out who is pretty good with children - she has helped me out, but I have an au pair now so don't need her so much. she is Spanish, studying at the university - very nice, reliable etc. She isn't free every morning as she goes to university then (probably after school run though), but is I think free in the afternoons. Let me know if you are interested.

I have found my au pairs on the brighton gumtree pages - have had one bad experience and 2 good ones so far.

kittywitch · 02/10/2007 20:31

Yes, pollyanna, I am! Thanks!

ScaryScaryNight · 07/10/2007 19:35

Kittywits do you still need an au pair?

Check this thread, lovely swedish aupair

to a good home....

Scanner · 07/10/2007 20:59

Kitty, I've had au-pairs in the past when my three were little. A good friend suggested that at the interview stage I explain that at night dh and I will want to be on our own. That she'll have her own room/tv/stereo etc and be free to see friends etc. She can tell me what food she'd like me to get from the supermarket, but in the evenings we will want to eat just the two of us. It sounds brutal and I felt a little uncomfortable saying it, but it meant that the girls knew before they'd even accepted the job. If they didn't like the sound of it then they wouldn't accept. I also strongly suspect that they equally didn't want to feel obliged to sit with us - we are old to them .

The agency I used to use told me that they all say they don't smoke and often it transpires that they do, so you'll need to be clear on that one.

I found a few little gifts kept them happy, on a Friday afternoon if everything was ok I'd often say they could finish early. I paid for a plane ticket home at christmas, paid for the costs for her to take her English exam, occassional phone top-ups etc. In return I'd get loyalty and a few extras like she'd load/unload the dishwasher on a weekend etc.

SlackSally · 07/10/2007 23:08

Hello Kitty.

I'm probably going out on a massive limb here, but there's no harm in asking.

I'm in Brighton, as a student. I'm English like your (ex) au pair. I've a little experience working with (pre school) children, anad would welcome any further experience as I'd eventually like to become a teacher.

Are you absolutely looking for someone who can live with you (presumably for financial reasons)? Or would someone who could just be there be acceptable? Again, this is going out on a limb etc but I'd be available for similar hours except monday morning and monday and thursday evening. I'm probably way off the mark, but would you consider changing the format rather a lot? I promise I'm responsible and, although I do smoke, I certainly wouldn't do so on work time.

Anyhow, I'll leave you alone now. Just thought I may as well find out in case there's a teeny chance we would suit. Best of luck!

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