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Dating a lovely man with no disposable money

533 replies

IveGot3kids · 10/02/2020 10:18

I've got a real dilemma. I met a lovely man on online dating, we get on great, and are about 5 or 6 dates in.

I have 3 children and he has 2. All of our children are under 10.

I'm fairly financially comfortable and have enough disposable money to go out for date nights most weeks etc. He's a nurse and is very dedicated to his job and children. He appears to provide the best life he can for them, but as a result, he has seemingly no disposable income. He's been single for a few years and had a very quiet social life so I don't think he realises how much socialising can cost.

I am starting to fall for him and I feel terrible for thinking this, but I don't know if I can continue to pay for all of our dates. Him ever affording a holiday seems impossible.

I am really torn. Am I going to end up falling for him and then resent him down the line?

I know that if I call things off I'll be miserable and sad. AIBU to even consider ending it because of his financial position?

OP posts:
fastliving · 10/02/2020 22:26

She's just not that into you.

fastliving · 10/02/2020 22:27

Also why would you invite her away with your children after you've known her 5 mins?
Don't your kids deserve better than that?

haytorduncan · 10/02/2020 22:42

Dont wade into this. The likes of siring1 have shown you how this may well go down - you pay for everything purely for the benefit of her company, oh and to pay towards children that arent yours and wont continue your bloodline. By following the logic of siring1, you could argue this woman has failed once in maintaining a relationship with her childrens father. After all, if men are expected to pay surely the onus is on women to pay into the childrearing and maintenance of the relationship. After all, it appears we are rolling the clock back 75 years!

On a serious note, why bother with her? If she has no disposable income, if it gets serious you will be paying for the children AND her and you have to ask yourself is it worth it?

wapbapboo · 10/02/2020 23:28

Sigh.

The flip totally sucked me in too.

You either need a budget to date or to plan awesome, creative free things.

wapbapboo · 10/02/2020 23:29

^even a small budget

ProclivitiesMcManus · 10/02/2020 23:43

The thread is fantastic, and very revealing of Mumsnet mentality, especially since the "gender reveal"! We should all reflect ...

Shortfeet · 11/02/2020 00:04

Oh FFS
Some of you, get over yourselves , you don’t speak for every female here.

Op I’m more than happy to be called a girl !

TooleyVanDooley · 11/02/2020 00:10

I’d not tie myself up with someone who could not provide for me adequately.

That is a disgusting comment. How about you provide for yourself?

DecemberSnow · 11/02/2020 00:11

Theres loads of free things you can do

This wouldn't be a problem for me personally....

Aureum · 11/02/2020 00:17

As a NRP why would you want to burden yourself with a RP? You’ll spend your life looking after and paying for someone else’s kids. Truthfully it sounds like she’s looking for someone to finance her. I’d run a mile.

Stabbitha1 · 11/02/2020 00:23

I don't like that he is online dating with no money to split the dates or imahination to make them affordable. Nurses wages are not bad so i would judge him for not managing his finances well. Its such a turn off to keep letting you pick up the tap.

JavaQ · 11/02/2020 00:23

Move on. Money will be an issue in the future. Men can get shitty if they think they cant keep up with a woman...mentally or financially.

DecemberSnow · 11/02/2020 00:25

Just read the thread - Ignore my last comment

returnofthecat · 11/02/2020 01:00

It's a difficult one.

I would also naturally want to date someone in a similar financial position. It's easy being able to suggest things you want to do, because you can afford to split it down the middle or take it in turns, knowing you're not putting undue financial pressure on the other person, or always compromising and doing cheaper things that actually don't appeal. No one likes being taken advantage of, either.

I couldn't be with someone who earned less money than me due to never trying to better himself - it's the lack of drive that is unattractive, rather than the lack of money. Nursing puts a different spin on it - it's a noble, respectable profession that just so happens to be underpaid no matter how much effort you put in. I guess I would date a nurse knowing that he would never earn as much as me, because it wouldn't be for lack of ambition, and he would probably come with a set of ethics I would admire. I could compromise there.

What wouldn't sit easy with me - and this is the bit you appear to also be struggling with - is never offering to pay. You're right, it is about the token gestures. When I date, I want the other person to treat me from time to time, even if that's as cheap as a 99p filter coffee. It's the gesture, rather than the amount. And unless I've explicitly said, 'I really want to go to this place, so it's my treat', I fully expect my date to come ready to pay at least 50%, even if I don't intend on letting my date pay.

Does the reverse make a difference?

Some women have very old-fashioned attitudes and expect to be treated all the time, based on observed behaviour. I might make allowances for her just having shitty role models rather than being a gold digger, but I'd still need her to change and frankly, get with the times. It's nice to be treated if you're the lower earner, but you need to have some respect for yourself and not allow someone else to pay your way all the time. If she is genuinely broke, she should be taking turns to organise dates and suggesting something free/low-cost so she is at least showing 50% of the effort, even if she can't put up 50% of the funds. Not only are you always stumping up all the cash, you're making all the effort. What are you getting out of this relationship?

Her behaviour isn't sustainable because it's making you feel taken for granted/a walking piggy bank, and that will just end up eating you up eventually. I think you're right to question the lack of token gestures - whichever scenario is true, male or female.

anon2000000000 · 11/02/2020 01:09

I spent years of my life with someone like this.

He had no money and didn't show an interest in anything unless I was paying. I'm ashamed to say that I was with him for nearly 4 years when I finally saw the light and ended it.

FrockFrockFrockityFrock · 11/02/2020 01:20

People never read the full thread, do they? Maybe MN can group OP's posts together to allow for easier reading of the full thread and crucial updates, such as this is a flip.

HeIenaDove · 11/02/2020 02:23

All on the same thread we have had

"if he/she is poorer whats she doing online dating"

The mention that a single parent someone on here knows has a council house

Then "at least they arent a benefit scrounger" thus scoring the hat trick!!!!!!! Although i havent finished reading the thread yet.

AlexaAmbidextra · 11/02/2020 02:39

To put yourself on online dating knowing that you will expect whoever you meet to pay for everything is imo most definitely cheeky fucker territory. I refuse to believe that he is unable to even fork out thirty quid once in a while for you to go to Prezzo or similar.

KatherineJaneway · 11/02/2020 02:57

She clearly thinks you should pay when on dates. Your decision is whether this is acceptable to you or not.

IHateUserName · 11/02/2020 03:35

On one hand maybe she's been brought up with the old fashioned idea that the man does pay for everything & that he's the one who plans the dates? But having said that, is she generous or does she show her appreciation for your paying/cooking in other ways? There are lots of things you can do for someone you care for that don't involve money but that shows them your love, respect & appreciation. I'd say have a serious talk with her, but keep in mind that if this is already bothering you 6 dates in, it's going to bother you a lot more down the road if you fall heavily for her but feel like she's taking financial advantage of you.

(Have to say the reverse makes this feel more like a made up scenario to test Mumsnet's users potential sexism than a real life issue though.)

AlexaAmbidextra · 11/02/2020 03:41

I am appalled by the change of attitude since OP revealed the reverse. So much for equality. 🙄

AlexaAmbidextra · 11/02/2020 03:44

Have to say the reverse makes this feel more like a made up scenario to test Mumsnet's users potential sexism than a real life issue though.

It worked though didn’t it? And imo, Mumsnet’s users have failed miserably.

NothingWrong · 11/02/2020 03:53

I expect men to pay. For dates - 100%. Unless I bought tickets to something as a gift or something, when out, the man would pay - usually because they earn more than I do.

Even when I was earning more money, I used to give ex 40 quid on a night out if we were among his friends so that he could be seen to be the one paying. Also, I didn't want to be seen to be a mug paying for drinks, as a woman.

Different cultures maybe.

NothingWrong · 11/02/2020 03:57

Add to that, I'm usually the one who facilitates most of the dates at my home - hence a lot of cleaning (like 6 hours of cleaning and polishing just to host my date). Cleaners get paid 12 -14 per hour. He would usually bring food and wine.

I put a lot of effort into dates, but I don't have disposable income really.

NothingWrong · 11/02/2020 03:58

As it turned out, he was a prick and I was a mug, but I wouldn't change my behaviour because of him.