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Why so many threads criticising Corbyn and so few about Boris Johnson

223 replies

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 14:50

If any??

There are SO many issues with Johnson - he is involved in at least 3 different potential scandals at the moment - the supressed Russia Dossier, the Jennifer Arcuri misconduct allegations and Vote Leave electoral fraud. His personal is marred with allegations of sleazy conduct and dishonesty. His working life outside parliament is a similar story of lies, conniving, incompetence.

Yet I don't see endless threads lambasting him - it just seems to be shrugged off with a 'well we all know what he's like'. Why is he getting such an easy ride on all this?

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Usernumbers1234 · 19/11/2019 14:53

If any???? Really

Hahahahahaha hahahahaha

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 14:57

Not to mention of course the racism - endless threads about Corbyn, nothing about anti-Muslim racism in the Tory party

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bellinisurge · 19/11/2019 14:57

Johnson 's not getting a fucking easy ride. He is shite. It's well known he's shite. He has few supporters on here.
However Corbyn leads a party that should pride itself on fighting against prejudice and for social justice.
So he is expected to be better. And isn't.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 19/11/2019 14:59

Do you know how to use Mumsnet?
The active threads? The search button?

Tensixtysix · 19/11/2019 15:02

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SummerPavillion · 19/11/2019 15:02

Labour leaders are always held to a much higher standard. I think because Labour is considered on the side of equality, fairness etc - even by those who vote Tory to prevent the "damage" Labour would do to the economy (ho ho).

However, if JC was even 10% less appalling than BJ he'd still be way preferable as the lesser of two evils.

I don't think he'll be around too much longer anyway so he shouldn't put anyone off Labour imo

Ilovecupcakke · 19/11/2019 15:05

Yanbu OP, the press are covering for Johnson the BBC used old footage of Rememberance Sunday because Johnson appeared scruffy and laid his wreath upside down.

If Corbyn had done the same we would never hear the end of it, just like when the press made a thing of his poppy being too small or him not singing the national anthem loud enough.

We have a biased press who want to see Boris elected.

Ilovecupcakke · 19/11/2019 15:08

Oh and no one is challenging the conservatives on the u turn on austerity. All of sudden the spending is back on. But knly back in 2017 we were told that austerity was needed to balance the books. Austerity has always been a lie, no is challenging Johnson on why public services had to be decimated all to make a u turn and now have money to spend.

motherogod · 19/11/2019 15:09

YANBU, it's incredible how many people are so willing to criticise Corbyn without stopping to think that they're in fact boosting the Tories - but sure, Corbyn-bashers, go ahead and let the country in for another half-decade of severe poverty, homelessness, moronic behaviour, rewarding corporate greed, selling off the completely beleagured NHS, eviscerating public services. You only have yourselves to blame if you think that it's because you hold Labour to a higher standard.

AgeLikeWine · 19/11/2019 15:09

Corbyn is being criticised because Labour should be so far ahead of the shambolic Hard Brexit Tories in the polls that victory is inevitable. Under any competent, credible leader they would be, but Corbyn is neither.

He would be hopelessly and dangerously out of his depth as PM of a G7 country, which is why 81% of Labour MPs, many who have known and worked with him for decades, voted no confidence in him in 2016.

As an ex Labour acttivist, I could never vote Tory, but I despair at how Corbyn and his cronies have done to Labour. My old party will never win again while they are in charge.

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 15:11

WTAF Tensixtysix!

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ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 15:13

So that's why Johnson gets an easy ride - because Corbyn is held to a higher standard - exactly! And because of that the country is going to shit. excellent

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JasonPollack · 19/11/2019 15:18

Wow @Tensixtysix "poor little Muslims" really? Talk about the pot calling the kettle.

SummerPavillion · 19/11/2019 15:21

AgeLikeWine they won't be in charge forever. Remember the 80s!

JasonPollack · 19/11/2019 15:27

He would be hopelessly and dangerously out of his depth as PM of a G7 country

Do you have anything to back up that claim? @AgeLikeWine

Corbyn has been in government for decades. He is an incredibly experienced politician.

AgeLikeWine · 19/11/2019 15:34

Corbyn has never been in government for one single day in his life. Until he was elected leader in 2015, he had spent 32 years as an obscure back bench MP, on the fringes of mainstream politics, which is where he should have stayed.

recrudesence · 19/11/2019 15:43

Corbyn has been in government for decades.

Corbyn has never been in government. I sincerely hope it stays that way.

RockinHippy · 19/11/2019 15:44

YANBU

angemorange · 19/11/2019 15:50

Are traditional Tory voters REALLY happy with the lurch to the right of their party though?

Someone like Johnson is an embarrassment, and moderate Tories have left in droves.
(Before you start 'whataboutery' for the Labour party, I'm just genuinely interested if traditional Tory votes have any fears over what their party is becoming.)

noodlenosefraggle · 19/11/2019 15:54

Speaking for myself, I know how shite Johnson is. If he was an OK run of the mill Tory leader, I still wouldn't vote for him though. I'm pissed off with Corbyn and the current Labour leadership because I will vote for them even though they are crap because it will be less crap than a hard Brexit. It is Corbyn being so crap and peoples dislike for him that makes it more likely that the Tories will get a majority. He is stopping Labour having a coherent policy on Brexit and has done nothing about Scottish Labours collapse. Without Scottish Labour, we will never again have a Labour government. They can promise as many unicorns as they like. Without a majority they are just pipe dreams. The only thing they will be able to do is get a crappy Brexit deal that everyone will then vote against and we'll remain in the EU. Everything else is fixable. Mumsnet is overwhelmingly left wing. I suspect that might be the reason there are more anti Corbyn threads on here. Because by being so crap, he is bringing down Labour and gifting the Tories a lead.

SummerPavillion · 19/11/2019 15:59

Excellent point about Scotland. I think most Labour people in England just don't know what it'll take to win there again. I certainly don't, and would be very glad to hear ideas!

flowerpowerr · 19/11/2019 16:05

Not to mention of course the racism - endless threads about Corbyn, nothing about anti-Muslim racism in the Tory party

Yes, endless threads about Corbyn on which some posters have actually tried to play down the rife anti-semitism in the Labour party. It's despicable.

Of course there are problems within the Conservative party too, but Labour is the party being formally investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. The only other party to have come under formal investigation by the EHRC is the BNP.

bellinisurge · 19/11/2019 16:09

"Corbyn has been in government for decades. He is an incredibly experienced politician."

He's NEVER been in government. Because he's a professional activist.

angemorange · 19/11/2019 16:21

To be fair Corbyn's been a MP for decades, so yes he has been in government.

I'm interested to hear from Scottish ex-Labour supporters. Although the SNP are the biggest party the support for independence isn't really rising above 50% according to the polls which is interesting.

How could Labour re-claim their Scottish voters?