Why so many threads criticising Corbyn and so few about Boris Johnson

[ArseDarkly]

If any??

There are SO many issues with Johnson - he is involved in at least 3 different potential scandals at the moment - the supressed Russia Dossier, the Jennifer Arcuri misconduct allegations and Vote Leave electoral fraud. His personal is marred with allegations of sleazy conduct and dishonesty. His working life outside parliament is a similar story of lies, conniving, incompetence.

Yet I don't see endless threads lambasting him - it just seems to be shrugged off with a 'well we all know what he's like'. Why is he getting such an easy ride on all this?

I think everyone knows exactly what Johnson is. But he's going to win because Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott are unelectable.

I'm as left as they come but I don't trust any of them.

Because whilst Johnson is not a likeable person, Corbyn would be an absolute disaster for this country.

I thought this exact thing the other day! And no threads on rees mogg that despicable twit

I feel like Corbyn and the Labour Party are held to a higher moral standard, because everyone knows that ultimately their policies and ideas ARE much better for ‘the many’ they have to find ways to make them look immoral to compare with the likes of Johnson who everyone knows is immoral. I’m not even sure if that makes any sense. Labour certainly aren’t perfect but right now people are actually dying because of Tory policy. They are completely assaulting the poor, the sick, children and that’s what it boils down to for me. I’ve had enough of feeling like I live in a completely uncivilised society.

I thought this exact thing the other day! And no threads on rees mogg that despicable twit

Exactly. Again, nobody is gong to defend him - even tory voters. His supporters (he must have some) are not on MN.

Any Rees Mogg threads disappear just as fast as Farage threads because there in’t 157 fervent fangirls posting in his defence every 16 seconds and bumping the threads back up to the top.

Exactly what Drifting (and others, to be fair) said.

Can you seriously imagine Diane Abbott on the world stage?

I am as stuck as many others. I cannot vote Tory. I want to vote Labour. I can't bring myself to do it. They're a bunch of fucking clowns.
If they had had the foresight to install a more likeable charismatic leader with some sensible non-Marxist policies they'd have walked this election with a landslide.

@SweetSummerchild how refreshing to see a labour supporter described as a 'fanatic' instead of 'cult' member. I would suggest that the only fanatics are those blindly voting for the conservatives regardless of their demonstrable incompetence, institutional racism and morally bankrupt leader.

Not likeable Cutesbabasmummy ?? He's totally corrupt, that's the point! He doesn't care about flogging off the NHS, he doesn't care about Parliament or electoral rules or handing out public money to his mates or exposing the country to the danger of Putin's interference. And then lying and covering it up as long as possible. He does not give a shit about this country!

Corbyn cares about the country and the people that make it up - it rings true in everything he says.

I agree with the OP that it is to an extent one sided.

One (Jeremy Corbyn) is unfit to be Prime Minister and is no leader.
The other (Boris Johnson) is not fit to hold any public office at all, and is the most immoral person in public life, except perhaps for Julian Assange and Ryan Giggs.

Ryan Giggs 😁

@tttigress what makes Corbyn “genuinely dangerous”? Very odd comment

Bit harsh on Giggsy there Saints...

The mainstream media have caved in to Johnson - are they afraid of him? Or do they just hate Corbyn so much?

They have the power, if they wanted to use it, to put enough pressure on Johnson that he would have had to publish the Russia dossier. And pressure on the IOPC to announce the results of their investigation into Arcuri. But they won't do it. They'd rather go on and on about Prince Andrew

ArseDarkly having a relationship with your brother's wife and trying to use the courts to silence a relationship with a former Big Brother contestant I don't think is harsh criticism.

Though maybe Boris Johnson is worse as it's more than two women he's been unfaithful with.

@Cutesbabasmummy what is it that would be disastrous? Or at least more so than our current government and what they’ve done to this country over the last 9 years:

• increase from 3% to 23% in food bank usage from 2015 to 2019 (sharpest rise ever from last year to now)
• A&E waiting times at an all time high
• 22% rise in homelessness since 2017 (only Labour so far have announced this as something they’d target when in power)
• reduction of 21,000 police officers from our streets
• national debt has doubled

Someone PLEASE tell me why the Tories are the better option here.

@ArseDarkly they’re not afraid by him, they’re just owned by rich Tories (who store their wealth offshore).

I agree that Corbyn genuinely cares about the country, OP, but there a naivety about him. He's very similar to Michael Foot in that way. The problem is that, like Foot, he'll never get into power with an overall majority, as a hard left manifesto does not have widespread support among the electorate.

He gets fanatical support at rallies but he won't win over floating voters in the centre ground.

It's very frustrating for those of us who want the Tories out but can see that.Corbyn won't cut it on election night. Whereas another leader, for example Hillary Benn, would in all probability win comfortably against an incompetent Tory government.

The only way Corbyn might have a chance is if he reaches an agreement with the SNP, and the price will be another independence referendum for Scotland.

Having said all that, I will be voting Labour, as they're the only party that can beat the Tories in my constituency.

You've got to be joking

God it pisses me off when people whinge that other people don’t start threads to their satisfaction? Why, OP, have you not started threads about Johnson if you want to talk about how appalling he is?

There’s one going on right now, by the way.

We have a Labour town council here after many years of Tories. I happen to work for them. Having been elected in May they have done the classic " we want to say yes" to people and are going hugely over budget, are stressing the officers to breaking point and the Labour leader has even told her own party lies about us. If they get power again nationally under Corbyn we will be fucking bankrupt by next Christmas.

The thing is, what Corybn and McDonnell are proposing isn’t even that far left (not that we’ve seen the full manifestos of course). The corporation tax would be in line with other major EU countries. The shite the tabloids spew about ‘communism’ and ‘the far left’ is actually quite funny.

It would be funny if it wasn't picked up and repeated everywhere else ad nauseum, if it wasn't damaging the chances of at least some positive change for the country, instead of yet more years of misery with the Tories

I go on their actions not what the press report about them.
I look at what they do and what they support.
Who cares what a newspaper says, it's not real
They report like a panto, "He's behind you"

I agree that Corbyn genuinely cares about the country, OP, but there a naivety about him. He's very similar to Michael Foot in that way.

That is true Lizzie however he has other people around him who are more pragmatic. I think it is the job of a leader to have big ideas and give the country hope and inspiration

1/ people are not so blindly devoted to Boris Johnson as they are to Jeremy Corbyn

2/ We mostly accept that Boris Johnson is an awful person and politician in so many levels

3/Many on here are really angry thar the party they usually support/vote for - the Labour Party is controlled by Corbyn/Momentum and since he they took charge have been allowed anti Semitism that has always been an issue in the far left to become not only acceptable it’s justified by being anti Israeli government policies and rarely challenged, they have been a woefully incompetent opposition and have been utterly useless on putting forward any alternative to Brexit as we know Corbyn is a leave supporter ffs took over three years to decide to have another referendum