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Why so many threads criticising Corbyn and so few about Boris Johnson

223 replies

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 14:50

If any??

There are SO many issues with Johnson - he is involved in at least 3 different potential scandals at the moment - the supressed Russia Dossier, the Jennifer Arcuri misconduct allegations and Vote Leave electoral fraud. His personal is marred with allegations of sleazy conduct and dishonesty. His working life outside parliament is a similar story of lies, conniving, incompetence.

Yet I don't see endless threads lambasting him - it just seems to be shrugged off with a 'well we all know what he's like'. Why is he getting such an easy ride on all this?

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noodlenosefraggle · 19/11/2019 16:25

Hes been in Parliament. Not government. Even when his party was in government, he consistently voted against them.

MaMaMaMySharona · 19/11/2019 16:25

YANBU at all, I'm disgusted by the media in this country.

flowerpowerr · 19/11/2019 16:29

Hes been in Parliament. Not government. Even when his party was in government, he consistently voted against them.

I thought that if a party wins an election, all of its MPs are then "in government", with some becoming cabinet members and others backbenchers. Or am I wrong on that?

RibenaMonsoon · 19/11/2019 16:29

Not to mention of course the racism - endless threads about Corbyn, nothing about anti-Muslim racism in the Tory party

Last I checked, Muslim was not a race, its a religion.

There's plenty of slander to go around for both of them. Although I personally would much prefer Boris to Corbyn.

angemorange · 19/11/2019 16:40

Labour were in government for over a decade and Corbyn was a serving MP - he was in government.

curlykaren · 19/11/2019 16:42

Several of the conservative party get jacked up on cocaine and its no biggie, Diane Abbott has a mojito on the tube and its the fucking apocalypse. The racism in the conservative party isn't contained to Islamophobia either, Windrush?? Hostile environment?? Johnson also allowed publication of Theodoracopulos article containing antisemitic and racist language and wrote himself about Obama's motivations being based on the part-Kenyan president's ancestral dislike of the British Empire. Nicolas Soames, a member of his own party called him out on this.
The double standards are glaringly obvious, I can't explain and personally find it repugnant.

MarshaBradyo · 19/11/2019 16:45

The media plays a big part and Johnson is fairly Teflon. Maybe his perceived privilege helps.

angemorange · 19/11/2019 16:48

Johnson is a racist and a liar - his supporters simply don't care.

Corbyn is a weak party leader and unpopular with the electorate in general, but all Labour leaders suffer vitriol and hate from the right-wing press, much more so than Tory leaders. (With the exception of Blair who they thought would leave them alone to pursue their business interests. Remember Milliband? Kinnock? All torn to shreds by the media.)

AgeLikeWine · 19/11/2019 16:49

There seems to be some misunderstanding about being an MP and being in government.

When a party is the government, as Labour were between 1997 & 210, some of its MPs become ministers. They are the government. The rest don’t have government jobs. They remain back bench MPs. Corbyn was never given a government job. He was never a minister in any department, or an assistant (PPS) to a minister or a whip. He spent his whole career as a back bench MP until he was elected leader.

MarshaBradyo · 19/11/2019 16:49

Yep Blair was helped by the media. Milliband the opposite, still remember that bacon roll pic.

tttigress · 19/11/2019 16:50

I think you are seeing things through biased eyes OP, I am seeing plenty of criticism of Boris.

I would say it is actually Corbyn (who is genuinely dangerous) who is not under enough scrutiny.

angemorange · 19/11/2019 16:52

Campaign against Milliband was anti-semitic and full of hate - wonder what would have happened had Milliband won in 2010?

(Although he wouldn't have as the media campaign against him was too nasty.)

noodlenosefraggle · 19/11/2019 16:53

thought that if a party wins an election, all of its MPs are then "in government", with some becoming cabinet members and others backbenchers. Or am I wrong on that?
No. The largest party in Parliament forms the government. They form the executive, who decide what laws they want to enact, which Parliament has to enact. Most MPs will vote along party lines so the government needs MPs who are members of their party to be able to enact the legislation they want.

angemorange · 19/11/2019 16:54

tttigress I only see criticism abour Boris on sites like this, and social media in general.
In the mainstream Boris goes unchallenged as do his lies.

MarshaBradyo · 19/11/2019 16:55

I do wonder if the other Milliband would have had an easier ride

angemorange · 19/11/2019 16:55

While Corbyn gets called a Communist/Terrorist sympathiser/crackpot etc etc daily in the mainstream.

angemorange · 19/11/2019 16:56

I don't think any Labour leaders will get an easy ride again - they need to be offering the wealthy newspaper/media company owners something they want.
A more equitable and fair society ain't it.

SweetSummerchild · 19/11/2019 17:04

I am speaking here as someone who likes neither Boris nor Corbyn.

There are plenty of anti-Boris threads. They tend to ‘fall off’ the first page relatively quickly because very few feel particularly inspired to defend him. The people I have met IRL who are the biggest ‘Boris fans’ are not what you would call ‘traditional tory voters’.

On the other hand, Corbyn has an utterly fanatical following who absolutely cannot see anything wrong with him, his leadership and Labour’s current policies. They jump to his defence on every slight criticism over and over again. This pushes ‘Jeremy’ threads to the top of the front page continuously.

Frozenfan2019 · 19/11/2019 17:09

@noodlenosefraggle I've learnt something new there. However I think it's laughable that we care so much about "experience" Theresa may had experience and so did Boris Johnson. Not to mention a shitload of other ineffective leaders.

I think it's time for a change from what it's been like for decades.

Op I think people do criticise Boris Johnson on here however in the mainstream media they fail to hold him or his party to account. For instance did you hear today that a conservative candidate has just been suspended for anti semitism?

motherogod · 19/11/2019 17:24

genuinely dangerous - wtaf? More dangerous than pushing millions into poverty, people literally dying from austerity, closing down public services? Such ridiculous scare-mongering. In terms of experince, how exactly has Boris performed? Britain is an international laughing stock - Brits don't seem to realise just what a fool BoJo seems to the rest of the world.

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 17:29

Yes I heard that Frozenfan2019 but only because I was reading all the news on a website. I haven't heard it on the radio bulletins but possibly I missed it?

I'm just staggered at the acceptance of Johnson's behaviour, how someone can constantly lie and connive and be up to their necks in scandal and yet everyone just seems to carry on as normal. Where is the outrage at him?

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recrudesence · 19/11/2019 17:30

While Corbyn gets called a Communist/Terrorist sympathiser/crackpot etc etc daily in the mainstream.

He has supported terrorists. The other charges are debatable.

motherogod · 19/11/2019 17:34

How has he supported terrorists? In fact, a Minister who called him such was formally reprimanded by his church. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-heckler-richard-cameron-terrorist-sympathiser-tweets-church-scotland-a9201846.html if you care to learn from it. He actively sought to bring different sides together in Northern Ireland. He has done far more for peace than BoJo has ever done.

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 17:35

Commentators attaching words like 'dangerous' and 'terrorist supporter' to Corbyn while Johnson is enabled to connive with Russians close to Putin, illegaly shut down our democratic Parliament, disseminate fake news - open your eyes fgs!

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ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 17:40

What exactly do people mean when they say 'terrorist supporter'? Do they mean he has actively promoted and encouraged terrorist actions? Or do they mean he has tried to get a dialogue going with terrorists in order to try to help promote peace?

All his life, even as a young teen, he has been campaigning against racism and injustice and war. Meanwhile Johnson has lived a totally selfish life dedicated to feeding his 'appetites' and monstrous ego.

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