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Why so many threads criticising Corbyn and so few about Boris Johnson

223 replies

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 14:50

If any??

There are SO many issues with Johnson - he is involved in at least 3 different potential scandals at the moment - the supressed Russia Dossier, the Jennifer Arcuri misconduct allegations and Vote Leave electoral fraud. His personal is marred with allegations of sleazy conduct and dishonesty. His working life outside parliament is a similar story of lies, conniving, incompetence.

Yet I don't see endless threads lambasting him - it just seems to be shrugged off with a 'well we all know what he's like'. Why is he getting such an easy ride on all this?

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motherogod · 19/11/2019 22:52

DustyDiamond why are you repeating lies? How is he a terrorist sympathiser?

ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 23:10

Lies are all the Tories seem to be able to deal in mother. They've built a whole campaign on them.

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ArseDarkly · 19/11/2019 23:40

Yet more lies and misinformation - the Tories set up a fake 'fact check' site on twitter to lie to people during the debate. There really is no low they won't stoop to.

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DustyDiamond · 20/11/2019 06:55

DustyDiamond why are you repeating lies? How is he a terrorist sympathiser?

Not lies.

He is a terrorist sympathiser.

bellinisurge · 20/11/2019 07:02

Sucking up to the IRA and Hamas is a bit hard to explain convincingly. And "it's all for peace and dialogue " doesn't cut it.

bellinisurge · 20/11/2019 07:03

For balance, Johnson is a philandering knob who will get into bed with anyone literally and monetarily for personal gratification. He is PM for personal gratification.

motherogod · 20/11/2019 09:01

Sucking up to the IRA? He didn't. He condemned all killings in Northern Ireland and specifically condemned IRA bombings. He met with Sinn Fein to discuss an end to armed conflict, as did the British government, numerous times. He voted for the peace process fgs. Get your facts straight.

Vevvie · 20/11/2019 09:06

Johnson's repertoire - but Jeremy, but labour, get brexit done'!

I heard he was a good orator, haven't seen it yet.

He is a disgrace and an embarrassment.

Considermesometimes · 20/11/2019 09:08

Corbyn is just about to lose another election, it is simply unbelievable that he is even attempting to become the PM of this country with the ridiculous policies Momentum have come up with.

No one is voting for Labour because there is no Labour party to vote for at the moment, only the Momentum Party, and the thought of them running the country with Corbyn as a puppet PM truly chills me to the bone far more than other scenario. The country would never recover from it.

So if you are wondering why there are so many worried posts about it, I guess it is because most reasonable labour voters feel that way op.

Solihooley · 20/11/2019 09:18

Well the daily mail must have been rattled by the debate. Their lead headline about it online is accusing JC of showing his true anti-Semitism by pronouncing Epstein’s name, Er, correctly, rather than in the anglicised way. It’s ludicrous and makes a mockery of genuine concerns about anti-Semitism within politics (this comes the day after a Tory Candidate had to be suspended for holocaust denial FFS).

bellinisurge · 20/11/2019 09:26

@motherogod , my facts are straight, thanks. He isn't Mo Mowlem but his acolytes pretend he is. I'm old. I remember stuff. He has terrible judgment-that's the kindest thing I can say.
But if it doesn't matter to you, not much I can do about it.

derxa · 20/11/2019 09:33

Ranting on like this changes no one's point of view OP

ArseDarkly · 20/11/2019 10:51

So if you are wondering why there are so many worried posts about it, I guess it is because most reasonable labour voters feel that way op.

So 'most reasonable Labour voters' would prefer a Tory government, led by Boris Johnson - notorious liar and immoral arsehole, taking them into a car-crash Brexit. Is that what you're saying?

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noblegiraffe · 20/11/2019 11:09

A thread for people who don’t want either Johnson or Corbyn to win:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3745230-Anyone-else-not-want-anyone-to-win-this-General-Election

Monsterinmyshoe · 20/11/2019 11:23

Because most of the people who post bollocks on here about Corbyn have more free time/nothing better to do. I think some arguments are fair - there is an issue with antisemitism, but there is also an issue with Islamaphobia in the Tory party which gets far less scruitiny. You can't say one type of racism is more favourable than the other. They should both be held to account.

It could be anyone posting these threads really. It could be a part of the party's game plan or someone trying to sway public opinion. Lots of name changers posting again and again. Take it with a pinch if salt.

I was just on the BBC site and there were far more individual commenters against Johnson than Corbyn. Most of the pro Boris comments were the same people posting again and again. Their comments were also rather immature and ranting, like someone had already had too much gin at 10am, whereas those against Boris actually made sense!

I'm still on the fence regarding where my vote will go, but the fact that Tories promised thousands of houses to be built and to decrease the deficit (neither have happened) and have said they will find 20,000 new police officers (you are just restoring what you cut, don't pretend you're being generous), I am definitely not voting Tory!

Mysterian · 20/11/2019 11:26

Because I and may others want to vote for the Labour Party, not Momentum.

Because the risk of a "car-crash Brexit" is preferable to the petrol tanker crash into a coach full of orphaned pandas that would be a Corbyn government.

I'm voting Libdem.

Monsterinmyshoe · 20/11/2019 12:09

To add, I doubt many people with half a brain would base their vote on an internet forum, unless they read some of the hate filled tabloids and are easily persuaded. I wouldn't worry too much OP. Each forum has it's own demographic at different times of the day, and come this evening you may see different responses.

A lot of people will look at the manifestos and base their judgements on this. For me, I will base the decision on what is being offered and what is a) relevant, b) achievable and c) if some of it is unachievable, is what is achievable in the manifesto still more on offer and relevant than what other parties are offering. I will not fall for the we'll do this is 5 years shit. It takes time yes, but it still needs to be done ASAP. I emailed the Lib Dem party about their funded childcare policy and when it will be implemented, but am yet to receive a response. This might snag my vote if only I had a general idea when!

Overall I am most likely to vote for a party that wants to at least attempt to make society more fairer, not promise that something will change for the poorer and hardworking members of society, but only in 5 years or not materialise at all. That's why I don't vote Tory anymore (I have in the past) as they have form for this and don't admit that they have fucked up. Plus I can't forgive them for starting this Brexit mess (because they were scared of losing votes to UKIP) in the first place. I don't think I'm too different from many other voters, I'm just not sure there's enough of us to prevent a Tory majority.

recrudesence · 20/11/2019 12:44

Sucking up to the IRA? He didn't.

In October 1984, two weeks after an IRA bomb killed five at the Tory Party conference in Brighton, Corbyn invited convicted IRA volunteers Linda Quigley and Gerry MacLochlainn to the House of Commons.

derxa · 20/11/2019 12:51

In October 1984, two weeks after an IRA bomb killed five at the Tory Party conference in Brighton, Corbyn invited convicted IRA volunteers Linda Quigley and Gerry MacLochlainn to the House of Commons. I don't think this can be stated often enough.

ArseDarkly · 20/11/2019 12:52

So-called 'Labour supporters' on here that would prefer a Tory Government rather than Corbyn. Come off it Hmm

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ArseDarkly · 20/11/2019 12:56

Very fair points Monsterinmyshoe

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CendrillonSings · 20/11/2019 13:00

So-called 'Labour supporters' on here that would prefer a Tory Government rather than Corbyn.

I think that may answer the question in your thread title: “Why so many threads criticising Corbyn and so few about Boris Johnson?” Grin

Dusty01 · 20/11/2019 13:04

I know that fundamentally Corbyn and his party care about the people of the UK and that is what motivates them.

I know that what motivates BJ and his party is greed. They are in it for themselves.

ArseDarkly · 20/11/2019 13:07

Cendrillon -I admire your indefatigability your excellency. I mean really, it's almost inhuman the way you keep on and on and on and on night and day. I hope they pay you well!

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Jakymz · 20/11/2019 13:10

Cendrillon getting a bit desperate after last night’s debate Confused