Transphobia

[SardiH]

I am absolutely disgusted by the vile bigotry and absolutely hatred shown by some people on here. I realise those people peddling this feel justified in doing so. The truth is the bigoted never see their form of bigotry as bigotry. Racists doing think they bigoted they think they have a valid point of view - truth is they are vile racists. Homophobic people the same. Sexist people the same. Mysogynistic the same. Xenophobic the same. And transphobic = yes indeed, exactly the same. It's very sad. It's sad for the people who hold such hatred in their hearts. It's sad for the transgender community who have to live with the consequences of such bigotry and ignorance and haterd and opposition to just fulfilling their destiny as they feel it.

I just hope enough good people stand up with the trans community against this hatred and bigotry and that we move towards a better and kinder and more understanding world for transpeople. We have made great progress with this over recent years despite the best efforts of some.

I hope those with hate in their hearts can heal in time and become kinder and more understanding. My wise old grandma used to say those who bear hatred of others can never be truly happy.

I know the backlash to this post will be vile from some. I won't be reading the replies. I have no need to.

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I agree but wow this thread will not go down well

U ok, hun?

I agree too.

Why would you start a thread and not read the replies

You just farted in the lift and got out at the next stop

(Never seen any transphobia on Mumsnet)

Racists and homophobes do not use biological facts, they use prejudice.

How is it bigoted to understand humans cannot change sex, and to want to keep willies out of the safe spaces of women and girls?

OK deary.

Transphobia isn’t allowed, so please do report any transphobic posts you have seen

Cool story bro.

What you seeing, I think - and I've read many threads on here - are concerns around safeguarding, and scepticism around the tenets of trans-ideologies (which isn't illegal and isn't a phobia), and a desire for open debate.

I know what my views are; I'd like to hear other people's.

Very well said. I'm sorry if you, or someone you love, has been on the receiving end of this crap. Though I think even witnessing it harms everyone.

Yes, please do report any transphobia you might see. Can you give any examples?

Bring pro women's rights and not wanting functioning cocks in women's spaces isn't transphobic, though.

Transphobia is not ok. But being gender critical and concerned about the erasure if women’s rights is.

So I assume we are on the same page OP - because someone as ethical as you couldn’t possibly want to shut down the voices of women.

If one person, just one person who believes that a woman can change into a man could define ‘woman’ and ‘man’ then the whole arguement could be over and we could move forward. But no one can - no one will even try.

(Not even the government)

I was going to ask how you feel about gender critical trans people, but if you've just lit the fuse and run off, I won't bother.

Not the best day to post this, in light of the 'Karen White' case.

Wel at least you aren't tying women up and making them babies this time.

Fully agreed SardiH. The transphobes will look just as silly in ten years as racists or homophobes do now. Casual homophobia was considered acceptable in the 90s but not now. So let's give this argument another 20 years and we'll see how things improve.

Oh why don't you just engage your brain and listen to women's concerns instead of just sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting 'transphobic lalalalala!'

Fill the women's bathrooms, prisons and refuges with trans women for all I care. But not while they still have a penis. That's not transphobic. Saying women don't have penises isn't transphobic either. You might be all cool and right on, but you won't fucking gag me from discussing facts by telling me I'm something I'm not.

Is the dictionary definition of a women transphobic (and a man for hat matter)? What is the cotton ceiling again?

Racism and transphobia are abhorrent as we all agree. Protecting safeguarding and safe spaces for women is essential.

Do you agree OP?

Hoping to get a rise to plant on Twitter maybe?

let's give this argument another 20 years and we'll see how things improve.
Let's give it 12 months then come back.

Please report any and all transphobic posts that you come across. That shit is totally unacceptable.

Also unacceptable is preventing the discussion of the potential abuse of a piece of legislation by crying transphobia every time the topic is mentioned.

Nowt transphobic about wanting to prevent paedophiles and perverts from playing the system.

Do you believe Karen White should serve their life sentence in a women's prison?

If yes, what do you suggest is done to protect the women prisoners?

If no, why not? After all, we keep being told self ID is the way forward, and surely self-ID applies to everyone, not just nice people.

Do you believe people can actually change sex?

Oh I forgot. You're not coming back.

Cheerio