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To Not Want England To Win The World Cup.

344 replies

ProudAunty2nine · 08/07/2018 17:04

I am not English I am Welsh and rarely support English teams, but I have got caught up in the excitement of the teams achievements and until yesterday thought it would be fabulous if they did actually win the World Cup.

Then I saw the damage caused across the country but so called fans so called celebrating the quarter final win and thought God forbid they win what the hell will happen across country when the yobs celebrate that!

I also think that 'young lady' photographed jumping on an ambulance along with her companions and the ones photographed on bus shelters should be named shamed and charged with criminal damage and the same goes for anyone else who does not know how to celebrated in decent law abiding way.

This is a very disappointing reaction to what should be a happy and proud celebration

OP posts:
Seasawride · 08/07/2018 21:24

jasjas

Mmmm yes one country but defiantly 3 equally proud different nations with their own flags.

Mine is the St George! It’s hanging outside my house.

Are you Emily Thornbury?

Seasawride · 08/07/2018 21:26

I think lots of us do Nancy certainly most welsh I know do but we banter of course. That’s part of it. Scotland too. Most people are supportive of each other there’s only a tiny minority of sour pusses and out right racists.

Cantspell2 · 08/07/2018 21:27

Been years since I have been to Scotland but I do remember they had different news reporting. As you say that may well be regional news but either way I am sure there would be plenty of match reports in Scotland had they made the semis.

StoorieHoose · 08/07/2018 21:29

I’m please England have reclaimed their St George’s flag. But can we get you a separate national anthem rather than using the same one as GB Grin

StoorieHoose · 08/07/2018 21:31

We get half an hour after the main 6pm news CantSpell and 5 mins after 10pm. Oh and there is the awful Sky Scottish channels that are so awful I don’t think anyone watches them

Cantspell2 · 08/07/2018 21:32

If England we out and either Scotland or Wales in i would be supporting them. I could never support France or Argentina. If we go out to Croatia then I will give them my support for the final.

SPOFS · 08/07/2018 21:32

I think "Three Lions" is England's unofficial national anthem at the moment... Smile

derxa · 08/07/2018 21:34

cantspell there is NO such thing as English tv (apart from regional variation). I’m talking about BBC Breakfast Telly which is broadcast to Scotland as well as England Exactly

nancy75 · 08/07/2018 21:36

I’m all up for a new national anthem God Save the Queen is boring, I’d happily watch the team sing vindaloo before the match Grin

Cantspell2 · 08/07/2018 21:36

Stories does sportscene no longer air?

They used to be the Scottish match of the day showing the Scottish league

Frequency · 08/07/2018 21:37

I don't agree with OP but I understand where she's coming from. And I'm not sure it's a tiny minority either. Hundreds of people were cheering as the ambulance was destroyed. And more hundreds of British people in Benidorm were threatening Police trying to control the crowds, some with children on their backs. Hundreds more rioted in Nottingham. It's not a minority, unfortunately.

I'd still like England to win. They've done well to get this far. Plus, them loosing would cause damage too. It's a shame the drunks and louts have to spoil it for the rest of the country.

Do other countries celebrate by rioting and committing criminal damage or just ours?

StoorieHoose · 08/07/2018 21:37

Billy Connelly suggested the Archers theme tune didn’t he? Grin

StoorieHoose · 08/07/2018 21:39

Oh yes we still get plenty of Scottish football shown but I’m talking about the World Cup coverage- even though millions of English folks would support Scotland I’m betting the media wouldn’t spend as much time talking about Scotland.

nancy75 · 08/07/2018 21:40

Frequency I was in Spain a few years ago when they made it to the final, the initial feeling straight after the match was brilliant but it did start to take a turn after a while, we were out with our daughter who was quite little at the time so we went back to our house. In the morning there was definitely a lot of damage to windows & cars, so yes I think it does happen with other fans

SusanneLinder · 08/07/2018 21:40

I am Scottish and not the slightest bit offended by the England flag. Its the Union Flag that has been taken over by idiots.
Fly your St George flag proudly.

nancy75 · 08/07/2018 21:41

StoorieHoose yes the Archers theme would do, but we’d need some lyricsGrin

StoorieHoose · 08/07/2018 21:43

Surely it’s just do dodo dodo dodooooo?

Tentothree · 08/07/2018 21:44

Are there not 4 countries in the UK?

Cantspell2 · 08/07/2018 21:44

frequency it is not just a few in English football and ours is positively mild compared with say South America.
www.google.co.uk/search?q=south+american+football+hooligans&client=safari&hl=en-gb&prmd=niv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjn27zQrpDcAhUlKsAKHbOTBpAQ_AUIEigC&biw=1024&bih=643

thor86 · 08/07/2018 21:45

@cantspell2
Scotland keeps telling us that they are a separate country to England so why would they expect English telly to give the same level of reporting to a non English event?

It's the BBC, not the EBC.

Usually when I hear English people complaining that Scots don't support the English they follow it up with "I'd support Scotland if they got further than us...not that the Sweaty Socks ever qualify." Frankly you can keep that support.

StopCloudSeeding · 08/07/2018 21:46

I have not read all the the thread but if the English were out and the Welsh were in I would love to support the Welsh team! Why wouldn't I?
I'm English first, yes, but I'm British. I love the British culture, I celebrate our differences but I also celebrate all we have in common! We have so many more values in common, which we need to recognise. Do not let politics divide us. We must recognise our core values.

nancy75 · 08/07/2018 21:47

StoorieHoose might be a bit complicated for some of the fans, too many syllables in that last bit GrinGrin

StoorieHoose · 08/07/2018 21:48

nancy75 GrinGrinGrin

Charolais · 08/07/2018 21:49

I remember when we won the world cup in 1966 and I don’t recall any vandalism afterwards.

DiegoMadonna · 08/07/2018 21:51

the ones photographed on bus shelters should be named shamed and charged with criminal damage

I assume that if identified they will be charged with criminal damage, won't why? Why wouldn't they??