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...to remind people about today's march against Brexit

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twofingerstoEverything · 23/06/2018 09:16

...starting at 12 o clock from Pall Mall.

(Piccadilly, Green Park and Charing Cross station are the nearest tubes.)

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AntiHop · 23/06/2018 09:17

I'll be there.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 23/06/2018 09:19

Any idea who is going and who is organising? DS is heading off in that direction with some friends today (to play footie in the park, not to protest).

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twofingerstoEverything · 23/06/2018 09:21

details here

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Seniorcitizen1 · 23/06/2018 09:39

Pointless - brexit means brexit

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twofingerstoEverything · 23/06/2018 09:46

Haha! I knew someone like senior would pop up and am also expecting a few people to come along and say it's 'undemocratic'.

As far as I'm concerned, it's not over until it's over. Other people might want to sit back and watch our country go down the pan economically and socially, but I'm not one of them.

'Brexit means Brexit'... what an utterly meaningless slogan that is.

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Angrybird345 · 23/06/2018 09:48

What a pointless thing to do. A protest is not going to make a bloody bit of difference except cost the country money and inconvenience people.

UpstartCrow · 23/06/2018 09:48

Like Brexit then.

UmSrsly · 23/06/2018 09:50

Protesting is not pointless at all.

Also, just to correct you slightly, OP: it's not a march against Brexit but a march in favour of a People's Vote on the final deal.

Wish I could be there.

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twofingerstoEverything · 23/06/2018 09:58

Yes, I know, UmSrsly, but needed to get the word 'Brexit' into the title, as a lot of people won't have heard of the People's Vote, whereas everyone's heard of Brexit! I'm fairly sure a massive proportion of marchers are going along not necessarily to support the idea of a people's vote, but to show their opposition to the stupidity of Brexit.

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Mookatron · 23/06/2018 10:01

'Brexit' doesn't mean anything. It's just NewSpeak made up by a stooge of Nigel Farage's.

Can't make it today but good luck those that can.

Poloshot · 23/06/2018 10:02

Have a good day luvvies

NoNotheresnolyrics · 23/06/2018 10:03

Good for you but I don’t care about Brexit either way 😂

40isnew50 · 23/06/2018 10:05

Totally support your right to march and protest but the vote was cast, rightly or wrongly so we need to accept that. Hope you get a nice day for it!

Seniorcitizen1 · 23/06/2018 10:07

Of course its pointless - many of the losers can’t accept the democratic vote of 2016 when the people spoke to leave the EU and all its institutions. There will be no second referendum and the remoaners need to accept that. I voted remain but as a democrat I accept the result.

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twofingerstoEverything · 23/06/2018 10:07

You too, Polo! Thanks for the bump!

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Lottapianos · 23/06/2018 10:07

Brexit means Brexit'... what an utterly meaningless slogan that is.'

And it's all going so beautifully too. Such clarity, vision and leadership Hmm

More power to everyone who is marching today

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twofingerstoEverything · 23/06/2018 10:17

I accept the result. That's fine, Senior. If you want to watch the country go down the pan and stand there 'as a democrat' stoically watching things go tits up, that's entirely your prerogative. It's a free country. However, even the government's own impact statements don't paint an optimistic picture of the future, so I want to be able to look my DC in the eye and say I did what I could... I protested, I wrote letters to my MP, etc. I do understand, though, that most people are apathetic and prefer to placidly watch events unfold around them while doing nothing to try to effect change (and often moan about the effects afterwards).

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surferjet · 23/06/2018 10:25

I want to be able to look my DC in the eye and say I did what I could

Absolutely - that’s why I voted leave.
I can look my children (& grandchildren) in the eye & tell them I voted leave to give them a better future.

What you’re doing is marching to overturn the will of the people.
How you can look anyone in the eye is beyond me.

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 23/06/2018 10:29

I don’t mind people marching as long as it’s peaceful.

I voted Leave and had that failed wooos probably be marching today too.

Won’t make any different though. You are wasting your time other than perhaps increasing your daily step count

Lottapianos · 23/06/2018 10:31

'I voted leave to give them a better future. '

How do you work that one out?

BananaHarvest · 23/06/2018 10:38

Sadly I can’t be in London today but fullynsupport the protest.
Brexit meant 33% voting to leave the EU based on lies and cheating. It certainly wasn’t democracy. It is going to have a huge negative effect - sadly mostly on those who voted to leave.
Places like East Kent are already economically challenged and Brexit will make it worse.
Skilled workers will lose their jobs. The NHS will struggle to find staff.
Prices will rise significantly.
If it can be derailed, it should be and our MPs should be brave enough to act in the best interests of the country not just worry about their own vote count.

Cattenberg · 23/06/2018 10:41

I really wish I could go. I'm very upset that DD and I will almost certainly be stripped of our EU citizenship rights through no fault of our own. I made use of them when I was young (spent 18 months working in the Netherlands) and I really wanted DD to have the opportunities I had. Doesn't every parent want that for their child?

But as DD is a young baby and we live a long way from London, it's not really practical for us to come. I hope you have a great turn out.

Mookatron · 23/06/2018 10:55

'I voted leave to give them a better future.' admirable. But if you told your kids to cross the road and then noticed a fucking great juggernaut coming towards them you'd shout 'stop' wouldn't you?

I am yet to hear a solidly sensible reason to leave or any indication we're in a good position to.

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twofingerstoEverything · 23/06/2018 10:56

What you’re doing is marching to overturn the will of the people.

We are also people. It was not our will. The result was marginal. Therefore, we will protest against this shambles. Thanks for the bump, though, surfer.

IMO 'will of the people' is right up there with 'Brexit means Brexit' in terms of its meaninglessness.

How you can look anyone in the eye is beyond me.

Yes, but, as is clear from your many contributions on other Brexit-related threads, you look at life through a pro-Brexit filter, don't you? Well, I'm sure it will come as no surprise to you that I don't. I work with a lot of colleagues from the EU who have been working here for decades, contributing to our economy, paying taxes etc., and who were unable to vote. I'm happy to look them in the eye and say 'not in my name'.

Off to catch train now.

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CaptainBrickbeard · 23/06/2018 11:10

I can’t make this march but went on the first one and it was great so I hope you all have a lovely day.

I don’t have the energy to debate Brexit on here anymore - I just bang my head against a brick wall if I feel like getting that experience but I note that some people are still so utterly brainless as to think that peaceful protest and political engagement is undemocratic as opposed to being the absolute fundamental cornerstone of what democracy is.