...to remind people about today's march against Brexit

[twofingerstoEverything]

...starting at 12 o clock from Pall Mall.

(Piccadilly, Green Park and Charing Cross station are the nearest tubes.)

Do you think it will be the middle class who suffer most?

Good grief, there may well be a shortage of nannies but the working class will be fucked sideways when industry leaves, jobs go and there is no EU money for Cornwall and Wales.

Wishing ill on others is not a good reason to vote for anything.

And will you just stop it with the anti democratic nonsense. Democracy does NOT mean just one thing and that the majority always wins. Stop saying it and making yourselves look foolish, ignorant and ill informed.

Who are the middle class? Please define. Anyone with a university degree, or whose parents had university degrees, maybe?

Re, question about mobiles.
I doubt you should panic. The reason being there will be so many attempting to use them it will jam the system locally as there are only so many 'lines' and everyone will have their mobiles on.
I feel that had the vote swung the other way (remain) after a while (basically less than 2 years!) the lies that were being spouted would have been exposed, as they are being now BUT the important thing is that industry would not be crapping themselves and desperate for reassurance from the government and at this point anyone with a decent plan.
Yes, if once the lies had been exposed 'leavers' could happily march as 'remainers' are today but at least you would know what they were marching for and as so many of the 'issues' were not actually to do with the EU the whole country would be on an much better footing.
Remember, Soverignty, NHS funding and immigration are NOT problems with the EU.
Hungary has put up massive fences and added laws to keep 'immigrants' out but they had around a million passing through last year. They are going against the usual EU guidelines but have forced the issue of immigration higher up the agenda. No doubt proper discussions will ensue.

There have been a lot of stupid posts by brexiteers, but I have always found your posts quite outstandingly so, surferjet.

Marching against Brexit is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

Although what a waste of a sunny day going to a city

Very true

Democracy is about protest and active citizenship. Getting involved by marching and engaging with issues is brilliant for democracy whether we agree with the issue or not.

Those of you who believe democracy should triumph should be cheering this march on.

Good grief, there may well be a shortage of nannies but the working class will be fucked sideways when industry leaves

Ah yes, those jobs which Remainers think should be available to literally anyone with an EU passport. Those ones?

Stay in the EU. Have industry. Those jobs are available to who will work the cheapest out of 508 million fucking people. The British working people are priced out. No jobs.

Leave the EU. No industry. Fewer jobs. More chance of affordable homes.

It's not difficult to work out why it's in the interests of the working class to vote leave is it?

Leave the EU. No industry. Fewer jobs. More chance of affordable homes.

So you think, airbus, BMW, financial services leaving is a good thing? Aside from the jobs, they contribute billions and billions to the economy in taxation alone.

You don't understand that without work and without taxation, there are no affordable homes, no affordable health service and no affordable food.

No one is this thick, surely.

It's not difficult to work out why it's in the interests of the working class to vote leave is it?

The wc didn't vote overwhelmingly to leave actually: The property-owning over 60s voted leave, the less educated voted leave: the wc vote was pretty much split.

2 years on and pretending Brexit was a WC revolt against the elites is embarrassing.

Anyone who thinks the MC are going to suffer more than the WC seriously needs their heads examined.

No one is this thick, surely

Of course. That's the answer. I'm simply too thick to understand that competing with 508 million people is for my own good. I should have just been grateful that I was allowed to compete for any crumbs that dropped from the table. After all, if I wasn't so thick and just tried harder at school I'd have a better job, and wouldn't have had to work in a factory in the first place.

Some very weird and twisted logic going on here.
{Leave the EU. No industry. Fewer jobs. More chance of affordable homes).
How are those on very low wages going to buy 'affordable' homes?
Government, not EU policy has encouraged the ridiculous house prices. Houses (or renting) in much of Europe is considerably cheaper than the UK.

{Ah yes, those jobs which Remainers think should be available to literally anyone with an EU passports}
In theory yes but by the same token you can take your savings and probably buy a decent place in Romania or somewhere. You don't want to go, and they don't necessarily want to come. Actually using a policy that many of the EU use, 3 months stay unless you have work or prove you have sufficient funds so not rely in the state helps greatly. Shame the British government didn't bother although they were slated for 'letting too many migrants in', for the last however many years.

Of course. That's the answer. I'm simply too thick to understand that competing with 508 million people is for my own good. I should have just been grateful that I was allowed to compete for any crumbs that dropped from the table. After all, if I wasn't so thick and just tried harder at school I'd have a better job, and wouldn't have had to work in a factory in the first place

You must be thick if you still think comfortably off, well educated southerners are really going to be the ones to suffer most by Brexit. I mean, I can understand you thinking that 2 years ago, but not now.

Good luck when the industries disappear: Remember that you wanted it, you voted it, you did it out of spite. I'll remind you too.

Leave the EU. No industry. Fewer jobs. More chance of affordable homes.

This is so brilliant a Leaver's slogan. It says so much.

We voted to leave end of. Whether we agree or not a vote is a vote. What's the point of a democracy if it's just going to be over ruled because people are throwing their rattles out of their pram

We voted to leave end of

Well done. Someone else who doesn’t know how democracy works but thinks adding “end of” to a statement makes it fact

@Awwlook
Did you vote for a 10% loss of earnings and reduced job security?
Yes or no answer will be fine.

We voted to leave end of

Luckily democracy isn't final. The will of the people can change - otherwise we'd be stuck with the same government for ever. Even if we leave the EU there will be huge numbers campaigning to rejoin in the future.

End of I think that was a missing square on the bingo card...

Taxes will need to go up about 3% to fund the 'new money' that Mrs May intends to spend on the NHS. She told a fib, there isn't 20 Billion under her sofa, you the electorate have to put your hands in your pocket.

A vote is a vote for sure. However people have EVERY right to question the omnishambles that is going on now WRT so called "negotiations" on our behalf.

People are not stupid, they see the clusterfuck for what it is, and that's why people are nervous and are protesting. Not against the vote, against the way the matter is being conducted, or indeed isn't being conducted.

There is no roadmap, no indication as to what Brexit will actually mean for any of us, nothing only infighting and a total lack of planning.

But then again hard Brexiteers do not see this at all. I feel they have been radicalised into a jingoistic hubristic ideology, and will not even attempt to engage with those who have doubts and very real fears.

Arrogant in the extreme with just a rinse and repeat mantra to show for it all.

Nine months to go folks.

If there is no industry and fewer jobs then most people are going to be unable to afford the cheaper homes on offer, the working class need to work!
Poorer people are going to suffer more if there is no industry and fewer jobs alongside higher costs.

In contrast to this, the EU has set aside over a Trillion Euros to help European companies recover from the losses they will suffer due to the UK government's stupidity.
A Trillion is about a third of the UK's business dealings in a year.
THAT is what friends are for.

With the greatest respect. Its no one's business how or if I voted

The usual self-interest or immature idealism on display from the remainers. The attendance at the anti-democracy march, despite Soros's funding and the nice weather, barely made 5 figures. Not in your name? Fine, we'll make a note of that somewhere.

We had a referendum. Remainers lost, thank goodness. The only further vote to be had is when Parliament decides whether the offer the EU comes up with at the 11th hour is just good enough to scrape past the 17.4m, or so bad they have to reject it, which means no deal and WTO. There will be no re-negotiation at that stage, the people won't get a say and are not entitled to one.

As an aside (i) Brexit means Brexit is just a slogan, though for the reduction of doubt it means the UK will be leaving the EU, the single market and the customs union, rejecting the so-called 'four freedoms' and the authority of the ECJ, and not paying any more money into Brussels' slush fund; (ii) the word was nothing to do with Farage but was derived from Grexit, a word for Greece leaving the Eurozone which first appeared no later than 2012.