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To think: Shame on Tom Jones!

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Trumpdump · 03/06/2018 11:13

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798889/Tom-Jones-secret-son-New-Jersey-busker-Jonathan-Berkery-29.html

Yes, Daily Fail link... But I am currently happy to give them clicks for various reasons.

Anyway, Tom Jones has a son whom he has never seen and apparently wants nothing to do with...

"Sir Tom denied he was Jon's father until it was proved by a court-ordered paternity test in 1989, and the singer agreed to pay £1,700 a month maintenance for his upkeep until his 18th birthday."

"Sir Tom only acknowledged Jon's existence in 2008, saying: 'It wasn't something I planned. I was tricked. I fell for the seduction.'"

What a piece of shit he is!

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Fatted · 03/06/2018 14:27

How is anyone surprised by this?! He openly shagged anything and everything during his marriage. The way he spoke about his wife and marriage was horrible, in such a back handed compliment type of way.

I don't understand people though who go after the money or acknowledgement though. They must surely know it's never going to end well. A celebrity is never going to go 'Yeh that's my kid' and then instantly hand over their fortune and start rocking up at every birthday party, are they?!

trumpdump · 03/06/2018 14:30

@surferjet

I would hope that people on Mumsnet, I.e. A parenting website, would be a bit more critical of this prick's behavior. The support TJ is getting here shows why so many men get away with this kind of behavior. If everyone stood up and said that TJ's behavior was unacceptable, then maybe more men would be forced to take responsibility for their actions.

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Gladys123 · 03/06/2018 14:31

@shins who is his actor father?

YourVagesty · 03/06/2018 14:36

He's a Grade A arsehole and I do not understand why people ignore that

noeffingidea · 03/06/2018 14:36

I think Liam Gallagher's point was that because his relationship with is daughter's mother was so toxic he felt it best not to be involved in her life, though he did accept his financial responsibilities towards her. Sometimes it might be better to step aside and allow someone else to take that role on rather than be a shit parent yourself. We don't know what his daughters life was like, if she had a surrogate or step father who stepped up, if she missed not having Liam around.
trumpdump his son needs serious help. Why isn't TJ helping him?
In what way? His son's a heroin addict. He needs specialist help, yes, but is he ready to accept that? I expect he will be able to claim on the will when TJ dies, but coming into money isn't always a good thing for an addict.

Unfinishedkitchen · 03/06/2018 14:37

Wow those South Africa stories! There must have been a super injunction in the UK.

NewYearNewMe18 · 03/06/2018 14:37

If everyone stood up and said that TJ's behavior was unacceptable, then maybe more men would be forced to take responsibility for their actions. He paid his dues. It wasn't a planned child, he has no legal or moral responsibility to this person now.

But tell me - its all TJs responsibility is it? Nothing ever said about the woman we know the sort, she knew he was married, at worst she hoped for a little Sunday Tabloid kiss n tell story - instead she got an 18 year pay check. I feel sorry for the kid (now man) who really needs a mother like that ?

DragonMummy1418 · 03/06/2018 14:38

@MidnightAura
What has Jack P Shepherd done?
He's got 3 kids and recognises that he does and sees them all.

Fintress · 03/06/2018 14:40

Tom Jones has cheated on his wife right throughout their marriage.

He's always been an utter sleaze. Then he was all over the media saying how distraught he was when his poor long suffering wife died.

NewYearNewMe18 · 03/06/2018 14:43

Then he was all over the media saying how distraught he was when his poor long suffering wife died.

So you aren't allowed to grieve?

She knew about his affairs, he wrote about them many times, in books and in interviews - not for me or you to judge their marriage and what agreed between them. It's called making adult decisions. If she was unhappy she could have taken him to the cleaners. She didn't.

Slanetylor · 03/06/2018 14:46

So you’ve no moral or legal responsibility to an unplanned child? That is very interesting information.
I suppose the mother looked after him for almost 24 hours a day for for the most of 2 decades, so I suppose there’s that.

Fintress · 03/06/2018 14:46

Can you blame women for not being able to resist this?

I have never found him the least bit attractive.

So he documented his affairs many times? Making his wife look a fool. Yes a lovely man indeed.

NewYearNewMe18 · 03/06/2018 14:50

So you’ve no moral or legal responsibility to an unplanned child? That is very interesting information.

I made the point up the thread that a woman holds all the cards - if she chooses to take no responsibility she can choose to have the child adopted, thus legally cutting her financial, legal, moral obligation to that child. A man has no such equality, he cannot say, as a woman can "take it away" he's lumbered, whether he likes it or not.

And as I said TJ paid his financial dues whilst the person was a child. He has absolutely no further obligation to the person whatsoever now that person is an adult.

NewYearNewMe18 · 03/06/2018 14:51

So he documented his affairs many times? Making his wife look a fool. Yes a lovely man indeed.

You have no idea, any more than I do, whether it was an open relationship. He could have left her, she could have left him. The fact they chose to stay together speaks louder IMHO

WhatCanIDoNowPlease · 03/06/2018 14:54

@shins

Does anyone else spot how glaringly obvious the identity of his actor father is, by the way?

No, I'm rubbish at these things. AA? JB?

shins · 03/06/2018 14:58

Well I'm guessing the actor has knocked a couple of years off like Sue Jameson did but he's the absolute stamp of him. Dick Turpin....

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 03/06/2018 14:58

I can't understand how intelligent people can read tabloids and instantly believe the tales within. I just can't.

Regardless though, how is it though that if a woman would post here, saying that she'd slept with a 'taken' man and got pregnant as a result, would be called all sorts of dreadful names and told to 'lie in her bed having made it'- yet a woman who slept with a celeb getting pregnant, is 'supported' by randoms?

Bizarre and full of double standards.

No woman should be called names, just for avoidance of doubt - but two consenting adults are equally culpable for pregnancies arising from unprotected sex.

That said, the woman involved loses credibility for going to the media. There are courts for this sort of thing. Tacky. All of them.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 03/06/2018 15:00

Agree with NewMe's post at 1450:10.

Queenoftheblitz · 03/06/2018 15:01

TJ said it was not an open marriage and Linda had punched him in the face on one occasion for cheating.
A lot of his cheating was on tour so I guess it was easier for her to forgive him once he was home with her.
But I've no doubt her mh issues were caused by that marriage and lifestyle.
He just strikes me as a very shallow, intellectually under developed man.
And I remember Miss World Marjorie Wallace, attempted suicide over the affair and he didn't bother visiting her in hospital.

frumpety · 03/06/2018 15:05

He is the spit of him shins . I am a bit shocked that I didn't know that TJ was such a womaniser.

WhatCanIDoNowPlease · 03/06/2018 15:09

@shins

I am truly truly shite at this.

R O'S?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/06/2018 15:14

Dick Turpin.... But she called the kid Mark.... so, if she named him after his father.... it ain't him!

shins · 03/06/2018 15:20

No she didn't name him after his father, it's poorly worded..."she gave him his name" as in told him.

He's the image of him though!

IStillMissBlockbuster · 03/06/2018 15:29

He paid his dues. It wasn't a planned child, he has no legal or moral responsibility to this person now.

Holy Shit, what madness is this? Why are you defending feckless men?