So wtf was Adam Sandler DOING??

[MrsOverTheRoad]

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5027717/Twitter-slams-Adam-Sandler-touches-Claire-Foy-s-knee.html

Yes it's the DM sorry.

He kept touching her knee! What was that all about then??

[Crispbutty]

Is it worth mentioning that Clare foy has said SHE wasn't offended, or intimidated, or horrified by it at all.

[grannytomine]

And no, I can't see how they're different. Please explain to me again why I should feel sorry for Harvey Weinstein, and why he's the real victim when he's asking women to massage him against their will. Do tell me where I said that? You can't can you because you have to make things up don't you?

I will say again he asked these two women if they would massage him, different occasions, they declined and left. Even the interviewer was struggling, trying to ask about "and what happened next" and the answer was nothing. That isn't the same as women he attacked. That is women jumping on the bandwagon.

Don't tell me about minimising abuse, when I was working on the vice squad we prosecuted men who raped prostitutes or attacked them or robbed them. If a crime is committed doesn't matter what the woman is doing. Wouldn't have bothered with a woman who said and man propositioned her she declined and he accepted that.

[grannytomine]

Crispbutty, God no, what does she know about it compared to the permanently offended on here.

[grannytomine]

And they were on tv sticking up for Harvey Weisnstien? Or were they on tv talking about how inappropriate his behaviour was? They were undermining the women who were talking about real abuse from Harvey Weinstein. Inappropriate isn't the same as abuse.

[Pumperthepumper]

Here's where you said it, page 7:

I think this was a non event, I think there have been several instances of non events lately, I've heard several actresses talking about Harvey Weinstein and some of them have sounded non events. He asked them for a massage, or offered a massage they declined and left. Well if you are a grown up, obviously totally different if we are talking about children, people ask you out, some times it is crass but as long as they accept it when you say no then where's the harm? Do we really want a society where a man, or woman, takes their lives and reputations in their hands if they want to ask someone out for a drink?

Whose side are you on here? Not the people who he inappropriately propositioned, who you think are 'jumping on the bandwagon' ie the victims.

[Pumperthepumper]

crispbutty that's been discussed on here too. I (and others) think that his behaviour was inappropriate, he got lucky that Claire Foy didn't. She's within her rights to not want a male colleague (for want of a better word) to touch her leg.

[grannytomine]

I am on the side of victims, I think we have a different view of who is a victim.

On the quote did you notice where is said, some of them have sounded non events Some is very important, I don't think it helps people who are victims to have lots of people joining in. He was crass with the women who turned him down but from what they said he accepted the "No." So he was crass but I don't think that is the same as abuse. Other women he didn't accept the no and that is serious and needs to be seen as serious.

[Pumperthepumper]

I am on the side of victims, I think we have a different view of who is a victim. I think we definitely do. I think if these women say they were a victim of Harvey Weinstein then I believe them.

I don't think it helps people who are victims to have lots of people joining in I disagree. It helps paint a picture of predatory behaviour and means they are more likely to be believed.

[Pumperthepumper]

*and similarly, helps people who are victims of other unwanted behaviour from different predators to come forward, because there is a belief they are telling the truth. I can't see how minimising a women's account of what she considers abuse helps anyone.