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So wtf was Adam Sandler DOING??

209 replies

MrsOverTheRoad · 29/10/2017 11:30

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5027717/Twitter-slams-Adam-Sandler-touches-Claire-Foy-s-knee.html

Yes it's the DM sorry.

He kept touching her knee! What was that all about then??

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WhatwouldOliviaPopedo · 29/10/2017 14:14

It was his sense of entitlement that got me - Claire Foy politely moves his hand from hers onto his own knee, he gives her a look then places it straight back, like how dare she stop him doing it. Being tactile is one thing but deciding another person can't dictate to you how you touch them is creepy AF.

DeleteOrDecay · 29/10/2017 14:26

I understand consent, but the rate things are going in the world then we are going to have to walk around with disclaimers.

Then you don’t understand consent if you think that.

She clearly doesn’t want him putting his hand on her knee. She looks uncomfortable with it but also looks like she doesn’t want to ‘make a scene’ on national tv so she paints on a smile and tries to lightheartedly push him away. Shame on him for putting her in that position.

I quite like his older films, Big Daddy used to be my favourite film ever in my teens. Not keen on his newer stuff and I’m not keen on him in general to be honest.

DeleteOrDecay · 29/10/2017 14:28

Also not seeing the issue with the Tom Cruise clip....

TSSDNCOP · 29/10/2017 14:32

Tom cruise always makes a great appearance on GN. People seem to generally like him a lot and he's always surprised.

StorminaBcup · 29/10/2017 14:34

I realise I’m going to be massively flamed for this (and I completely agree that he should not have been touching her knee in the first place), but why didn’t she say something or move? Because it’s on TV and no one wants to create a scene? Take control of the situation, she was in a position there to speak up and show that you can have a voice and you can use it. I think it’s a really important point to make - silence is the worst thing about this type of behaviour.

Creamswirls · 29/10/2017 14:43

Does no one touch anyone when they're talking? You don't touch an arm, and elbow or a knee? Especially when you are including them in your story?? Really?

Creamswirls · 29/10/2017 14:44

By the time she "lightheartedly tries to push him away," he has already removed his hand.

I am a radfem, I speak out about the patriarchy etc etc but I am astonished that people don't seem to be seeing the same video clip I am?!

TSSDNCOP · 29/10/2017 14:49

Sandler looks stoned. Foy looks genuinely uncomfortable.

MayFayner · 29/10/2017 14:51

but why didn’t she say something

Probably for the same reasons lots of women put up with this kind of thing- she's inhibited by the situation. She's at work essentially, and she has to represent her employers as well as herself, and on TV too.

I think she was brave to have moved his hand- if it was me I think I would have frozen.

deadringer · 29/10/2017 14:52

I haven't watched the show just the clip and I can't see the big deal, if her leg was bare it might have been creepy, but it was brief and jovial and not at all sexual imo, and I can't stand Adam Sandler. As a pp said they are always hugging and touching each other on the Graham Norton show, actors are such a bunch of old lovies.

AdmiralSirArchibald · 29/10/2017 14:56

I watched the whole show and this clip had been taken out of context. Emma Thompson touches Adam Sandler several times before this section. I think this has been blown out of proportion a bit. And if Emma Thompson noticed and glared why didn't she say or do anything? It's not broadcast live is it? They would just have cut it out.

NurseButtercup · 29/10/2017 14:58

@Creamswirls

I agree with you..I've watched the clip with Adam Sandler/Claire Foy and I'm not seeing this as "in appropriate" touch, more including her in the conversation. Hmm

JacquesHammer · 29/10/2017 14:58

silence is the worst thing about this type of behaviour

No. The worst thing about this type of behaviour is the guys doing it.

JacquesHammer · 29/10/2017 14:59

more including her in the conversation

If only there were countless ways of including someone in a conversation without touching them....

Slartybartfast · 29/10/2017 14:59

I didn't think claire foy looked too uncomfortable, he was pretty boring though

ChocolatePHD · 29/10/2017 14:59

msovertheroad did you watch the show or a clip on YouTube? We watched the show and he did it at least five times.

BeautyQueenFromMars · 29/10/2017 15:01

She doesn't move his hand, she goes to put her hand on top of his at the same time as he moves it away, so he puts it back for a second for her to complete that action, and then removes it again after she takes her hand off his. People are definitely reading stuff into it that is really isn't there.

Slartybartfast · 29/10/2017 15:02

I was surprised to see him drinking as I thought he had a drink issue, but I might be wrong, then again I might be right

SonicBoomBoom · 29/10/2017 15:08

She does look very uncomfortable with it. Good on her for trying to move it.

He appears to be on drugs or something. Urgh. So unattractive.

The post about the Tom Cruise clip is ridiculous.

StickThatInYourPipe · 29/10/2017 15:18

To me it looks like he taps her on the knee as a personal gesture towards the conversation, she goes to put her hand on his but he removes it before she has a chance, she then reaches across to touch his hand to complete the action and he puts his hand back to let her do so. Seems like a bit of an awkward misunderstanding to be honest, I don't think she looks uncomfortable about being touched, more embarrassed at awkwardness of them misreading each other's moves.
It's a bit like when you are trying to move out of the way for someone and you both end up dancing about a bit.

crunched · 29/10/2017 15:23

Genuine question, not being goady , but annoying and inappropriate as Adam S behaviour was, surely Claire F was not at any risk of assault or feeling anything more than annoyed when the event took place in front of many potential witnesses.
Can this twatish guys behaviour be compared to events currently coming to light?

moomoo222 · 29/10/2017 15:23

She doesn't move his hand, she goes to put her hand on top of his at the same time as he moves it away, so he puts it back for a second for her to complete that action, and then removes it again after she takes her hand off his. People are definitely reading stuff into it that is really isn't there.

This^^ - that is what happened, not unwanted groping or anything else. Her awkwardness was a cringe because she went to put her hand on top of his and he removed it before her hand got there. Then they awkwardly went through the whole thing again, she was a bit nervy and he was distracted and trying to rectify it but ended up making it worse (rectify the awkwardness of the misunderstanding about removing his hand too early that is). Rather like the awkward cringe you do if you are greeting someone with two kisses and you go for the wrong side.

Obviously any right minded decent person would not agree with or condone any kind of inappropriate behaviour, but WTF is the world coming to when we can't touch each other at all any more. There is a massive difference between the two and claiming one is the other just minimises the real abuse and assaults.

Can every woman screaming outrage on here honestly say you've never touched another person during a conversation or an anecdote in a social situation (without a consent form witnessed and signed in triplicate)? I can't believe the amount of MN'ers taking this DailyFail shite and running with it.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 29/10/2017 15:26

he is like Will Farrell, one decent film does not make a career!

Trying to think which that one film could be, but I can't.

Thesmallthings · 29/10/2017 15:27

Couldn't agree more moo moo.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 29/10/2017 15:41

annoying and inappropriate as Adam S behaviour was, surely Claire F was not at any risk of assault or feeling anything more than annoyed when the event took place in front of many potential witnesses

Many men use public places to inappropriately touch women, because they hope to get away with it because it's public (because if it was creepy, they wouldn't do it in front of everyone would they?), and if the woman DOES make a point of telling them to stop they can turn it into a "joke" and label her as a frigid humourless bitch.
public is't always safe.