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So wtf was Adam Sandler DOING??

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MrsOverTheRoad · 29/10/2017 11:30

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5027717/Twitter-slams-Adam-Sandler-touches-Claire-Foy-s-knee.html

Yes it's the DM sorry.

He kept touching her knee! What was that all about then??

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DeleteOrDecay · 31/10/2017 10:36

I watched the whole show last night and thought Adam Sandler was very awkward throughout, his body language was just off. And to me it did look like Claire Foy was uncomfortable with the knee touching...

DeleteOrDecay · 31/10/2017 10:41

That said if Claire Foy is ok with it then there’s not really much more to say on the matter.

He asked them for a massage, or offered a massage they declined and left.

Conveniently missing out the part where he was naked under a dressing gown in the majority of those cases.

whiskyowl · 31/10/2017 11:12

The way I read it - he did the first movement accidentally, almost thinking she was someone else, then suddenly realised and took it away. She is slightly freaked at the touch, makes a face, then pats his hand when it is back on his own knee in a kind of friendly acknowledgement that it is now in the right place. He then decides to turn it into a "comedy" by going against her wishes and putting his hand back on her leg - this is the bit where he crosses a line. She pats his hand again to acknowledge the joke but also to reset the boundary, he removes it - but here's the interesting bit, her hands go to a praying stance then a little shrug. Those two micro-gestures speak volumes about discomfort and social embarrassment. She might not want to make a big deal of this in the press at a sensitive time, but if that's a woman enjoying herself and feeling comfortable then I'm a toffee apple.

Arealhumanbeing · 31/10/2017 11:28

Conveniently missing out the part where he was naked under a dressing gown in the majority of those cases.

And totally ignoring the fact that he was in a position of power and went on to threaten them if they objected.

Yeah what’s the problem?

Pumperthepumper · 31/10/2017 11:58

Such a shame for them isn't it? All these men, just casually asking young women for a massage, these poor older men and tempting younger women, and the women have the nerve to be offended? What happened to just being able to ask a young women in a professional context for a massage when you're a much older, married man with loads of power over their careers? It's madness! What a shame for the next generation if they can't ask random people they don't know to watch them have a bath. How will people ever form relationships if we put a stop to this?

Disclaimer: This is sarcasm, obviously.

whiskyowl · 31/10/2017 12:08

@ Pumper. They used to be able to say that it was just all these nasty, humourless feminists and their CRUSADE AGAINST FUN! But now it looks like the attitude of the majority... and some men are even agreeing about this "inappropriacy" stuff. It's almost like they are not normal, red-blooded males at all, but a set of hideous old dinosaurs with outdated and outmoded assumptions about their own attractiveness, importance, and power.

DeleteOrDecay · 31/10/2017 12:13

but here's the interesting bit, her hands go to a praying stance then a little shrug. Those two micro-gestures speak volumes about discomfort and social embarrassment. She might not want to make a big deal of this in the press at a sensitive time, but if that's a woman enjoying herself and feeling comfortable then I'm a toffee apple.

My thoughts exactly. Be prepared to be lambasted for looking into things too much however.

LittleMissNew · 31/10/2017 12:42

the way i saw it was he was saying "i got nominated" and then touched her knee to show he was saying "just like you did" and she brushed it off and he put it back saying "just like you" to show that's why he did it - no weirdness involved IMO

He didn't do it again afterwards....she made it out to be more of a big deal really...

Pumperthepumper · 31/10/2017 12:46

she made it out to be more of a big deal really... does that not suggest that she was uncomfortable though?

Does anyone think he would have touched Harrison Ford/Jack Nicholson/Idris Elba on the knee when telling a story?

GymBunnieWannabe · 31/10/2017 12:48

I saw it as he put his hand there and she went to rest her hand on his hand in reciprocation but he moved his hand too quickly.
So she went to put her hand on his (whilst it was in his knee) but he moved so it all got a bit funny.

She says it wasn't offensive to her.

I think she was trying to pat his hand in a friendly way but he moved.

GymBunnieWannabe · 31/10/2017 12:49

And her 'facial reaction' is in response to the confusion and embarrassment of her going to touch his hand in return but it being moved because it all got a bit muddled.

grannytomine · 01/11/2017 09:17

Such a shame for them isn't it? All these men, just casually asking young women for a massage, these poor older men and tempting younger women, and the women have the nerve to be offended? What happened to just being able to ask a young women in a professional context for a massage when you're a much older, married man with loads of power over their careers? It's madness! What a shame for the next generation if they can't ask random people they don't know to watch them have a bath. How will people ever form relationships if we put a stop to this? Weren't they young women who were in his hotel room? Not just some random unknown young woman. Maybe if you are confident enough to be alone in a hotel room with a man you need to be confident enough to say "No." The women who I've heard moaning about the massage thing had no repercussions, they left. Big deal.

grannytomine · 01/11/2017 09:21

And totally ignoring the fact that he was in a position of power and went on to threaten them if they objected. I specifically said the ones I heard talking about this declined the offer and left, there was nothing about threats.

Whitney168 · 01/11/2017 09:34

I think this thread shows how manipulative it can be to show a snapshot of something.

In the context of this clip (which I saw before the whole show), I agree it looks very uncomfortable and dodgy.

In the context of the wider show, even going in with a negative preconception, I saw no discomfort at all between them and fully agree with the dance of the missed pat on the hand that others have described.

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2017 14:21

Weren't they young women who were in his hotel room? Not just some random unknown young woman. Maybe if you are confident enough to be alone in a hotel room with a man you need to be confident enough to say "No." The women who I've heard moaning about the massage thing had no repercussions, they left. Big deal.

You can't be serious with this bollocks. Have you heard of the phrase 'victim blaming'?

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2017 14:27

Trigger warning on attached articles, sorry

grannytomine here's some women's views that you might find interesting on why it was so risky to say no to Harvey Weinstein. But you're just goading, aren't you?

So wtf was Adam Sandler DOING??

So wtf was Adam Sandler DOING??

So wtf was Adam Sandler DOING??

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2017 14:30

Just take a second to realise grannytomine - you are literally sticking up for Harvey Weinstein here. You might be the only person in the world, aside from him, who's on his side. Have a think about why that may be.

grannytomine · 01/11/2017 15:42

Pumperthepumper, no I'm not. What I am is against the people who want to jump on the bandwagon, the people who want a headline, the people who don't care that they undermine the case for the people who have been raped and assaulted by making out that a man coming on to the in his hotel room is exactly the same thing. Maybe you need to think about that.

grannytomine · 01/11/2017 15:44

grannytomine here's some women's views that you might find interesting on why it was so risky to say no to Harvey Weinstein. But you're just goading, aren't you? Not the same as the women who talked on TV, they were alone with him in his room, he asked them for a massage they declined and then asked if he could massage her and she was fully clothed, she declined and left. Can't you see that they are totally different?

grannytomine · 01/11/2017 15:45

You can't be serious with this bollocks. Have you heard of the phrase 'victim blaming'? Definitely not victim blaming because the women I am talking about were not victims. They chose to go to him room, he propositioned them and they said no and left. Where is the victim?

DeleteOrDecay · 01/11/2017 15:47

Definitely not victim blaming because the women I am talking about were not victims.

Which women are you talking about?

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2017 15:48

Pumperthepumper, no I'm not. What I am is against the people who want to jump on the bandwagon, the people who want a headline, the people who don't care that they undermine the case for the people who have been raped and assaulted by making out that a man coming on to the in his hotel room is exactly the same thing. Maybe you need to think about that.

Ok, I've thought about it. And you're still wrong. It's scary that you're worried about minimising 'real' abuse in the same post as...em...minimising real abuse.

And no, I can't see how they're different. Please explain to me again why I should feel sorry for Harvey Weinstein, and why he's the real victim when he's asking women to massage him against their will.

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grannytomine · 01/11/2017 15:54

I'm talking about the women I referred to earlier, they were interviewed on TV. They had both been alone in his hotel room with him, he asked for a massage they said no and left. This isn't at all the same as women he has threatened or raped. He asked a question and accepted the answer.

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2017 15:56

I'm talking about the women I referred to earlier, they were interviewed on TV. They had both been alone in his hotel room with him, he asked for a massage they said no and left. This isn't at all the same as women he has threatened or raped. He asked a question and accepted the answer.

And they were on tv sticking up for Harvey Weisnstien? Or were they on tv talking about how inappropriate his behaviour was?

DeleteOrDecay · 01/11/2017 15:57

He asked a question and accepted the answer.

A question that he shouldn’t have asked in the first place.

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