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Where is John McDonnell, potential lab chancellor

214 replies

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:36

I've just had to goggle Lyn brown (and only learnt that she swore at a blind man). Realised I know v little about McDonnell either. AIBU to think that he's been kept hidden because he might spoil cuddly JC's image?

In May 2003, he made controversial comments about the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), saying: "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."[17]
According to a report in The Times published in November 2015, McDonnell in 1985 made similar comments at a Labour Committee on Ireland meeting, before the start of the Northern Ireland peace process. The Deptford Mercury asserted at the time that McDonnell had suggested there was a role for "the ballot, the bullet and the bomb" in bringing about a United Ireland, and joked about "kneecapping" the "gutless wimp" Labour councillors who had declined to join the meeting.[19]
In 2015, McDonnell's name appeared on a letter calling for the armed police and MI5 to be disbanded. He claimed that he had not signed the letter, which was produced by the Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory (SCLV), but he was photographed holding a copy of the letter, although he later said that he did not know that the demand was on the letter.[29][30

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Dawndonnaagain · 07/06/2017 11:36
Biscuit
Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:42

? Do you agree with his views then Dawn? Or do you think we shouldn't be allowed to know about the people we're being asked to vote for. I follow politics reasonably closely and I've seen almost nothing of the man. He's a close colleague of Jc but I bet loads of Jc fans wouldn't be able to name him.

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littlehandcuffs · 07/06/2017 11:43

Good point! We haven't heard anything from him??

waitforitfdear · 07/06/2017 11:44

Maybe he's ill too

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:44

I had to google to remind myself of his name!

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littlehandcuffs · 07/06/2017 11:44

Surly even the Labour supporters on here would have liked to hear what he stands for and what he has to say on the economy etc.??

FizzyGreenWater · 07/06/2017 11:46

And WHERE is Phil Hammond for that matter? Google him and the only 'news' you get is:

  • He'll be sacked come Friday
  • He tried to have a go at Labour's manifesto but got his own figures wrong instead
  • he doesn't know how much HS2 is going to cost.

And that's the ACTUAL chancellor Grin

ssd · 07/06/2017 11:46

so where is Boris Johnson? have hardly heard from him, or any of the tory gov, except for Amber Rudd when TM was too scared to speak up.

littlehandcuffs · 07/06/2017 11:47

An awful sickness bug going round the Labour party atm?

FizzyGreenWater · 07/06/2017 11:48

It's funny though, you would think that by now those of a more right-wing persuasion would leave off posting these kind of threads - they ALWAYS end up showcasing just how much more the Tories are hated. I don't get it.

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:49

But Fizzy we have heard from hammond a bit, McDonnell's been entirely absent! What do you personally make of him?

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Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:52

Fizzy - I'm not really right wing, more of a disappointed centrist liberal remainer ☹️️. But I do think it's odd how little we've seen of McDonnell.

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araiwa · 07/06/2017 11:52

Better to be silent and thought a fool than open your mouth and confirm it

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:55

So no labour supporters bots can think of anything positive to say about either then!

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notanewuser · 07/06/2017 11:56

Hated so much they are likely to win an election? or Hated by some vocal momentum supporters on here who believe that voting Tory should be a crime?

The reason JMcD is absent is that he is a rather vicious marxist. He downright admiration of Mao (note - who killed 20m of his own people) should be enough to ensure he suffers a little more scrutiny. When that scrutiny arrives - you find yourself with a anti-democratic, terrorist supporting hard core communist. Enough to put most labour voters off.

Thats why.

Maxandrubyrubyandmax · 07/06/2017 11:56

All v sus as at one point we only ever heard from him and I wondered where jC was. Actually has anyone ever seem them in one place? Is that beard actually a disguise? Maybe JC appears as j mc when he wants to say what he really thinks? I still to this day can't imagine why people are actually voting for a bunch of aging socialist worker sellers who have views I thought were the sole perspective of your average 6th form common room. If labour had managed to get their arses together and had a leader who didn't look on the verge of tears and refuse to answer a question about protecting our nation, a shadow Home Secretary who doesn't read reports on terrorist activity even in the days following not 1but 2 atrocities (if she's ill I'm sorry for her but she should have stepped aside immediately -what if she was Home Secretary acting like this) and like it or not a terrorist hugging chancellor (god knows where he would send our money)

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 07/06/2017 11:56

so where is Boris Johnson? have hardly heard from him

All over tv yesterday.

OvertiredandConfused · 07/06/2017 11:56

I have met McDonnell several times. He is an old fashioned tax and spend socialist who has boasted about learning a lot from communism

TheNaze73 · 07/06/2017 11:58

He's been noticeably quiet.

Corbyn, McDonnell & Abbott, what a dream team Grin

waitforitfdear · 07/06/2017 11:59

Because they are terrified the press will focus on him and tell the truth about his communist terrorist ass licking views.

notanewuser · 07/06/2017 11:59

Fizzy - we post because we see members of the electorate getting hoodwinked into voting for the people around Corbyn - many of whom hold deeply unsavoury views. The levels of anti-semitism and hatred pouring from the noisy supporters of the current front bench should make you sit up and take note of who you are voting for. But you wont - will you - I suspect you are part of the noisy brigade

Dawndonnaagain · 07/06/2017 11:59

OP, you got the biscuit for your opening sentence about Lyn Brown. It's obvious where your loyalties lie, so you came on to be goady.

waitforitfdear · 07/06/2017 12:00

Yes there's a foot in gob illness going around.

maybe the dear leader is experimenting on him to

Dawndonnaagain · 07/06/2017 12:01

TheNaze, Abbot is ill.

waitforitfdear · 07/06/2017 12:02

Sorry dawn do you have to be a Corbyn groupie to post on mumsnet? Must check the posting guidelines.