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Where is John McDonnell, potential lab chancellor

214 replies

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:36

I've just had to goggle Lyn brown (and only learnt that she swore at a blind man). Realised I know v little about McDonnell either. AIBU to think that he's been kept hidden because he might spoil cuddly JC's image?

In May 2003, he made controversial comments about the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), saying: "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."[17]
According to a report in The Times published in November 2015, McDonnell in 1985 made similar comments at a Labour Committee on Ireland meeting, before the start of the Northern Ireland peace process. The Deptford Mercury asserted at the time that McDonnell had suggested there was a role for "the ballot, the bullet and the bomb" in bringing about a United Ireland, and joked about "kneecapping" the "gutless wimp" Labour councillors who had declined to join the meeting.[19]
In 2015, McDonnell's name appeared on a letter calling for the armed police and MI5 to be disbanded. He claimed that he had not signed the letter, which was produced by the Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory (SCLV), but he was photographed holding a copy of the letter, although he later said that he did not know that the demand was on the letter.[29][30

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peachgreen · 07/06/2017 17:12

I love that the only time anyone from England mentions anything to do with NI is to use it as a stick to beat Corbyn etc with. Hmm

LadyinCement · 07/06/2017 17:12

"And in the Mail. 13 pages of this bilge." You read 13 pages of the Daily Mail? Ah, at last someone's admitted to being a Daily Mail reader.

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 17:12

Monkey - maybe you don't understand what a smear is ? It's an untrue thing spread about someone to make them look bad. The things I've mentioned all happened - it's John McDonnell's fault if they make him look bad. And I think most of us believe that knowing about who we are voting for is a good thing... freedom of speech and all that.

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tobee · 07/06/2017 17:13

Sorry ?! What was that about not wanting a debate? Get the ball rolling then Monkey? Do you know what a debate is by the way?

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 07/06/2017 17:14

Yes I love the Mail.

No..i read about the 13 pages elsewhere

tobee · 07/06/2017 17:14

Sorry ?! What was that about not wanting a debate? Get the ball rolling then Monkey. Oh yeah. Do you know what a debate is by the way?

LadyinCement · 07/06/2017 17:15

You read about it elsewhere? So you didn't check up, then? You just believed that there were 13 pages of bilge?

So if I read something about John McDonnell, shouldn't I just believe that? After all, you believed what you read. Can't I?

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 17:16

You're not a real monkey are you?! I know if you get enough of them they might write the works of Shakespeare but I Don't think anyone's worked out the odds of them failing to answer questions about a potential chancellor on the internet.

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TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 07/06/2017 17:17

Its quite heartening that the tory party are panicking so much though

tobee · 07/06/2017 17:19

Oh, careful, Monkey, you're starting to backtrack now. It's about Tories is it?

MsMartini · 07/06/2017 17:19

I am a Labour Party member and will be voting Labour tomorrow. I can't think of anything positive to say about John McD or DA. And little about JC except that I think he is more naive than toxic.

tobee · 07/06/2017 17:20

Why is it when I debate with Corbyn supporters I imagine them all to be 14 year olds?

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 07/06/2017 17:22

Yes im 14. And 31

notanewuser · 07/06/2017 17:23

A smear is untrue. What said above about him is untrue?

MsMartini - why are you voting for a front bench in which you have so little confidence?

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 17:23

Msmartini - first Labour supporter to give a straightforward answer. I imagine you and I both feel the same, voting for our respective parties with a slightly heavy heart. Maybe next time we'll have a better range of options.

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tobee · 07/06/2017 17:24

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TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 07/06/2017 17:27

Oh i need a needle for my sides have split with the hilarity

LadyinCement · 07/06/2017 17:28

The New Statesman article I linked to seems to be a balanced piece. It is not a slur.

And surely a fan of Corbyn should embrace john mcDonnell's views?

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 07/06/2017 17:29

I dont embrace indulging in the desperate smearing threads

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 07/06/2017 17:30

Good luck for tomorrow. Hope you get a big wake up call. Things to do here

tobee · 07/06/2017 17:30

Sadly it's all very serious Monkey. The appalling situation this country is in and a lalala land opposition and people, like you, unable to debate.

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 17:30

I think monkey is trying to distract us from the debate. Best ignore.

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tobee · 07/06/2017 17:31

Again who are you saying is desperate?

tobee · 07/06/2017 17:32

Fair enough, Sittin? But like you, I'm extraordinarily angry.

tobee · 07/06/2017 17:33

Please disregard ? Too angry to post properly apparently.

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