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Where is John McDonnell, potential lab chancellor

214 replies

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:36

I've just had to goggle Lyn brown (and only learnt that she swore at a blind man). Realised I know v little about McDonnell either. AIBU to think that he's been kept hidden because he might spoil cuddly JC's image?

In May 2003, he made controversial comments about the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), saying: "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."[17]
According to a report in The Times published in November 2015, McDonnell in 1985 made similar comments at a Labour Committee on Ireland meeting, before the start of the Northern Ireland peace process. The Deptford Mercury asserted at the time that McDonnell had suggested there was a role for "the ballot, the bullet and the bomb" in bringing about a United Ireland, and joked about "kneecapping" the "gutless wimp" Labour councillors who had declined to join the meeting.[19]
In 2015, McDonnell's name appeared on a letter calling for the armed police and MI5 to be disbanded. He claimed that he had not signed the letter, which was produced by the Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory (SCLV), but he was photographed holding a copy of the letter, although he later said that he did not know that the demand was on the letter.[29][30

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Leaderwithsoul · 08/06/2017 09:42

I wouldnt go there with the interesting comments

Leaderwithsoul · 08/06/2017 09:43

Given the slating May has had about cutting police and security funding.

ssd · 08/06/2017 09:47

The desperation to prove that Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser is ridiculous compared with the deals May has been making with the Saudi government, only a few months ago.

MsMartini · 08/06/2017 10:03

What is Labour Party policy on the Saudi deals then, ssd?

Equating the actions of a backbencher with those of a PM does not address people's valid concerns about JC's past associations (albeit greatly exaggerated by the press). I have yet to see them properly addressed by him or his supporters. And it makes people feel they are not being listened to, or are being called stupid and gullible. Way to go.

ssd · 08/06/2017 10:09

JC questioned TM's dealings with the Saudis and said there needs to be more investigation but the tories don't want this

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-terrorist-funding-report-saudia-arabia-focus-not-publish-conservatives-government-a7766381.html

MsMartini · 08/06/2017 10:28

Exactly. Labour will question and review. Not stop.

I know what JC and JMcD say now. I also know what they said and did at the time. If JC had called for a ceasefire, worked with unionist groups, or done any of the things his very vague statements seek to imply, his office would have provided te evidence.His attitude was very common in Ho wing of te party at the time, I remember it well.

Charmageddon · 08/06/2017 12:17

On the subject of John McDonnell....

order-order.com/2017/06/08/john-mcdonnells-school-days/

Leaderwithsoul · 08/06/2017 12:45

So what? Did you choose what school you went to?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 08/06/2017 12:47

Son he has basically lied about his schooling?

Leaderwithsoul · 08/06/2017 12:50

Yuk just read the racist comments on that artucle. Feel soiled

Charmageddon · 08/06/2017 13:13

I didn't read the comments I'm afraid, I'm not really interested in self-centred echo chambers of activists of any stripe tbh.

Charmageddon · 08/06/2017 13:14

Yes Piglet, it appears so.

Ho hum.

Another lying politician.

OlennasWimple · 08/06/2017 13:45

I don't much care where politicians went to school. I never thought it fair to hold Eton against David Cameron, for example, as I doubt he had much choice about where he was sent to school and he couldn't exactly go back in time and change his education.

I do, however, have a big problem with politicians who don't recognise the privilege that their background has accorded them, and I have an even bigger problem with politicians who lie about, obfuscate or exaggerate their past, whether that's attending a fee-paying school or attending a rough comp.

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