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Where is John McDonnell, potential lab chancellor

214 replies

Sittinonthefloor · 07/06/2017 11:36

I've just had to goggle Lyn brown (and only learnt that she swore at a blind man). Realised I know v little about McDonnell either. AIBU to think that he's been kept hidden because he might spoil cuddly JC's image?

In May 2003, he made controversial comments about the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), saying: "It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA."[17]
According to a report in The Times published in November 2015, McDonnell in 1985 made similar comments at a Labour Committee on Ireland meeting, before the start of the Northern Ireland peace process. The Deptford Mercury asserted at the time that McDonnell had suggested there was a role for "the ballot, the bullet and the bomb" in bringing about a United Ireland, and joked about "kneecapping" the "gutless wimp" Labour councillors who had declined to join the meeting.[19]
In 2015, McDonnell's name appeared on a letter calling for the armed police and MI5 to be disbanded. He claimed that he had not signed the letter, which was produced by the Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory (SCLV), but he was photographed holding a copy of the letter, although he later said that he did not know that the demand was on the letter.[29][30

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makeourfuture · 08/06/2017 07:46

Today we throw off the Tory yoke!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 08/06/2017 07:56

Today we throw off the Tory yoke!

I very much doubt it.

NoLotteryWinYet · 08/06/2017 08:23

not sure what I'm hoping for overall today - I am hoping the Scottish conservatives win some seats as Ruth Davidson has talent and has been a good unionist advocate.

I suppose I hope Corbyn gets trounced now, but if he gets in, he'll be out in 5 anyway.

My main concern is that he won't do badly enough to step down and I suspect that has already happened.

MsMartini · 08/06/2017 08:38

Piglet, it is either that or what he said yesterday - it isn't all about electing MPs (which takedown of the rulebook I assume refers to building a mass extra-parliamentary rulebook). Paul Mason has been asking why the rallies are not getting BBC coverage - he can't see they are not news, no new votes there.

I reckon Labour will pile up votes in existing territories and lose to one of the most useless, unpleasant, bigoted governments to threaten our children's future in modern history. It is shameful.

MsMartini · 08/06/2017 08:39

sorry, extra-parliamentary movement not rulebook!

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 08/06/2017 08:50

What nonsense. Scottish Labour are getting a very hard time. There are many other places that would be easier

Did you see the cheering crowds? It was an open air rally. Only the faithful would have turned up.

Charmageddon · 08/06/2017 08:55

I wish he'd turned up here (very, very military area) - he'd have had to bus a hell of a lot of activists in to drown out the hatred.

makeourfuture · 08/06/2017 08:59

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Tories, the banker's friend.

Charmageddon · 08/06/2017 09:03

Jeremy.

The terrorist's friend.

Leaderwithsoul · 08/06/2017 09:08

Libellous lies

TheScottishPlay · 08/06/2017 09:10

Where's most of the Tory cabinet - all sharpening their knives!
Boris will be PM by Christmas.

ssd · 08/06/2017 09:11

Theresa.

The Saudis friend.

ssd · 08/06/2017 09:12

jesus, Boris will be pm by Christmas

theres a thought for everyone attacking Corbyn

CrossWordSalad · 08/06/2017 09:14

Why don't the McDonnell supporters link to all these interviews etc he's been doing?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 08/06/2017 09:14

make You are being to sound like a robot spouting soundbites.

makeourfuture · 08/06/2017 09:17

a robot spouting soundbites.

A "truth-bot", if you will....

ExplodedCloud · 08/06/2017 09:17

Have we seen Philip Hammond recently?

makeourfuture · 08/06/2017 09:17

Join us Piglet....take your country back from the bankers!

Leaderwithsoul · 08/06/2017 09:18

Yes where is Phil. And david looked a bit useless on hannel 4 recently.

And Boris just says whatever he thinks people want to hear.

ssd · 08/06/2017 09:19

the only tory I've seen apart from TM is Boris, they like to let him out as they think we all believe he's a lovable rogue, rather than a complete buffoon.

ExplodedCloud · 08/06/2017 09:27

We did see David Davis last week. You know, Brexiteer in chief, man who''ll be leading negotiations.

ExplodedCloud · 08/06/2017 09:28

And Amber Rudd. She's been quite visible...

ssd · 08/06/2017 09:32

Amber Rudd, the woman who tried to silence people asking questions at a rally about the PM's relationship with the Saudis?

and David Davies, the smuggest man on the planet, ready to sneer at anyone not in a fortunate position like himself?

that's ok then....

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 08/06/2017 09:39

There has also been Karen Bradley, Chris Grayling and Damien Green on TV this week.

Sittinonthefloor · 08/06/2017 09:40

Still nothing good to say about the man then!

Going to rallies and preaching to your disciples is not the same as doing mainstream interviews / debates on television and giving the general,public the chance to assess your ideas and temperament.

Interesting comments from former head of mi6 that Corbin is a danger to the nation and wouldn't pass security vetting due to his terrorist links.

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