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AIBU to be annoyed at 'girl' judging our family dynamics.

376 replies

madchocolatemum48 · 12/07/2014 17:52

A group of friends of a neighbour and I were chatting at a party over the weekend.
We were getting acquainted with the usual "What do you do?" "How many children?".......etc etc.
I said dh & i have been married nearly 20 years, 2 children, I'm a SAHM. Ended with saying "You know, the usual traditional family"
A young woman who had already stated she had 3 kids by 3 fathers, never married, pipes up " Fuc#ing hell, didn't know people still did that old b¤llsh!t stuff"

Is it 'old-fashioned' to be a traditional family now? Maybe she just made me feel old, but I wouldn't have made a derogatory comment about her family dynamics.

OP posts:
LoxleyBarrett · 12/07/2014 18:24

We may judge hickory, but we wouldn't be so rude about it.

For the record OP - I got married in my late 20s and have 3 children, so fairly traditional - I still think you were a cow.

icanmakeyouicecream · 12/07/2014 18:24

Yes when exactly is the switch from girl to woman? 26yrs 3 months 2 weeks and a day? Or?

NickiFury · 12/07/2014 18:26

minnie that's one of the most poisonous posts I have ever read on here. It didn't surprise me to see YOUR user name above it. When I think how nice a "hide poster" facility would be, it's usually you I am thinking of.

OP you sound like a right dick.

basgetti · 12/07/2014 18:26

So despite knowing others in the group were single parents or divorced, you still decided to announce yourself as the 'usual traditional family'? Nice.

tootiredtothink · 12/07/2014 18:26

I have the 'traditional family' you talk of and yes, your comment is still wankerish.

gordyslovesheep · 12/07/2014 18:27

op the 1950's called - they want their traditional family back

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 12/07/2014 18:27

Do people usually include background on the parentage of their children, and marital status both now and in the past, as part of the very first conversation at a neighbor's barbeque? Job andchildren yes, maybe a mention of partner if tbere, or that s/he had to work today or whatdver, but never heard "I'm Judy, Single Mum of Olivia and Max, both fathered by different men who I never married - in fact I've never been married. Pleased to meet you, and do tell - who fathered your kids then?"

MrTumblesBavarianFanbase · 12/07/2014 18:30

ican you become a woman on your wedding day, silly -every traditional-body knows that :o

chocoluvva · 12/07/2014 18:30

I think the other woman was being defensive - traditional doesn't imply 'good' or best. Perhaps she is used to criticism and assumed you were criticising her.

Probably safest in future not to use any adjective to describe your family set up.

BigfootFiles · 12/07/2014 18:31

This bit: "I wasn't judging her" conflicts with this bit "even though I did think she was rather young to have 3 children"

So: "I wasn't judging her, even though I was judging her."

Judge not, lest ye be judged, OP. That traditional enough for ya?

icanmakeyouicecream · 12/07/2014 18:31

My mistake Mr Tumbles!! Being a girl and all that I haven't quite worked it all out yet you see!

HappyAgainOneDay · 12/07/2014 18:31

I like MrTumblesBavarianFanbase's comment.

That said, I have to say that I'm also a 'traditional' family member but, when meeting new people, don't go into conversations with that phraseology. "I have two and that's my husband - over there". Sometimes, I'll wickedly add, "Where's yours?" Grin

Wink
WhereTheWildlingsAre · 12/07/2014 18:32
Hmm
NickiFury · 12/07/2014 18:33

You weren't judging her?

What exactly is there to judge?

Pyjamaramadrama · 12/07/2014 18:33

I love the responses here.

I don't believe a word of the op.

Nothing worse than calling a grown woman a girl.

TheFairyCaravan · 12/07/2014 18:35

Who the fuck calls themselves "a traditional family?" Hmm

I don't believe a bloody word of this!

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 12/07/2014 18:35

If we are being historically accurate, a "traditional family" would not involve either two children OR being a stay at home mum.

andsmile · 12/07/2014 18:36

I normally say we are currently in tradtional roles, previously reversed, this is what works for use at the moment.

I think it sounds as though she has the issue an didnt need to be so rude about. I really do not know why other people cant repsect other peoples choices. I wouldnt want to live in free love commune but I dont condemn others for wanting to.

Why is the OP seen as having a dig just because she stated a fact about her set - it is tradiitional in the past tense though is less so nowadays?

I dont think it is an old fashioned thing to have a parent at home, it is a parenting choice some people have had the opportuniy to make. How does she know you if you have a career behind you. She sounds in your face rude for someone you just met.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 12/07/2014 18:36

"You know, the usual traditional family" Hmm

Who would say that in real life?

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 12/07/2014 18:37

If they make a film of this thread, I vote Penelope Keith for the OP

OwlCapone · 12/07/2014 18:37

"I have two and that's my husband - over there". Sometimes, I'll wickedly add, "Where's yours?"

Why would you add that?

ivoryblankets · 12/07/2014 18:39

Problem with putting yourself on a pedestal is you become a target. Quite rightly in this case. In my opinion.

Like fuck did that conversation happen like that.

I'm for a BBQ tomorrow night with people I've never met before. Should I introduce myself like this :

"Hello I'm Ivory. Mother to three, large, medium and small Ivory, all by the same father from whom I am now divorced because he was dipping his wick elsewhere. I had the first when I was 20 and a girl and the last when I was 32 and a woman."

You sound smug and you did judge her and she called you on it and I say good for her.

StickyEmInTheRibs · 12/07/2014 18:39

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Dontgotosleep · 12/07/2014 18:40

Mad. You're still doing it (judging.)
women/men can become lone parents for lots of reasons. i.e death of a partner desertion or abuse, or is a women/man supposed to stay with an abusive partner and have her children terrified because you dislike lone parents.
How dare you judge lone parents. My nan brought up three children alone (divorced from abusive partner) if that's okay with you. She worked 2 jobs and bearly saw my mum or my uncles, but she had no choice, she didn't want to go on the social they called it U.A.B back then, as she wanted to set a good example.
I too have raised my d.d single handedly and done so very well.

ivoryblankets · 12/07/2014 18:40

And yes, as a PP said, how far back are we going for traditional? Girls getting married at 12 and having 18 kids? Or just to the 18 kids and no contraceptive options? Or when exactly?