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To expect my boyfriend to realise his wife is a gold digger and vindictive person?

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NMC89 · 24/11/2013 20:15

Background: my boyfriend and I have been together for 2 years, having been friends for some time before that. We have a large age difference but have an incredible bond and are best friends. He has been separated from his wife for 4 years but they still live in the same house (they don't have sex). I live in London and she lives in Italy - he commutes, spending the week with me in the UK and the weekends with his children.

She has had multiple affairs openly and manipulates him unbearably (she has threatened to stop him seeing his children). He financially supports her (as well as her sister and brother). I find her behaviour disgusting, she only speaks to him when she wants money or a new car and refuses to do anything for him or the household (she is a sahm) - including disciplining the children, cooking, cleaning or food shopping. He does all these when he gets back after a week working in the UK. I try hard not to constantly be horrible about her, but it is hard to see the man I love being taken advantage of so viciously. I know they are not going to divorce (for the sake of their children) but I really can't see how this is a good alternative. He admits that she is awful and has got very angry about some of the things she has done (notably bringing her boyfriend to their family home to spend the night when his children were there), but he is incapable of doing anything about it and has aided her boyfriend's business and bought her property. Am I being unreasonable to expect him to tell her about me, stand up for himself and stop being a coward as well as getting divorce proceedings under way?

OP posts:
afromom · 25/11/2013 08:10

In response to you question of whether you should tell you BF friend what you think of his wife: no I don't think that would be a wise thing to do. Not only will it not change anything (as if he was planning to divorce her he would have done it regardless of your opinion), you also leave yourself open to looking like the jealous GF who is pressurising him to leave (which it is highly likely he will throw back in your face later on, when things get tough).

I think it is difficult to know whether your opinion of her is true or not as you only have his side of the story. Of course this could be completely correct, or all fabricated.

A little of my past experience from the other side of the picture to you:
I have Amex husband, who works abroad for most of the year and stays with me and DS when he is back in the UK so that he can spend time with DS. A few years ago I received a message via Facebook from someone who claimed to be my ExH (not divorced) fiancé! It was very threatening, telling me to let him go and stop forcing him to be with me, as he is very very unhappy, hasn't loved me for years and is only staying as I have threatened to stop him seeing DS! Reality is: I left him, have asked him to move his stuff out on several occasions (which he never will) and spend half me life trying to get him to spend more time with DS, not less!

Turns out he had fabricated a whole load of lies, telling her I am this awful woman who constantly asks for money, stops him from spending time with his DS and have trapped him in a loveless marriage! Again : I left him, I try to encourage him to spend more time with DS, but he is only interested in his business (and having a free place to stay when in the UK, and per year he contributes approx £1000 to DS upbringing (at least £400 of that is to pay for lavish gifts at birthday and Xmas when he can't be bothered to visit him!)

I'm not saying that your BF is the same as my ExH, but I thought it would be useful for you to see it from a possible different situation.

elliegoulding · 25/11/2013 08:17

I understand all the straight talking and agree with it, my DSD is a similar age to you and I see the eagerness and naivety on her face whenever she tells me about her latest fucked up relationship and her reasoning behing any glaring anomolies, an example OP ...

latest beau has an indent in his wedding finger, he trapped that very finger in a drawer as a child leaving it permanently indented! she knows it sounds 'silly' but you know 'stranger things have happened'!! she genuinely believes this (she is not thick either, she is secondary school maths teacher!) ... he also cant stay overnight as he has to be 'up early for work every day'.

The incredulity you read the above with OP is how a lot of posters feel about your post.

I understand what its like to be young and infatuated - I hope you come to your senses soon and find someone lovely who you can be with in a nice uncomplicated relationship x

LIZS · 25/11/2013 08:38

they still live in the same house (they don't have sex) You are his bit on the side whether you like it or not , whether they have an open relationship or not . All these problems are simply a smokescreen so he can have a woman in both ports, how very convenient and ego- massaging. Does she know about you ?

I knew a young woman like you a few decades ago , she was having an affair with a much older, senior manager who had a very pretty wife (once his pa) and 3 young kids at home . He was never going to leave, I pitied the wife for not having more guts to kick him out and take him for every penny (She must have known and turned a blind eye) and more so I pitied the ow who hung on his every word, gift , moment, overnight hotel stay and in a relationship no one at work was supposed to know about or mention but of course they did. What a waste of years ...

intitgrand · 25/11/2013 08:39

'There's none so blind as them that won't see.....'

Misspixietrix · 25/11/2013 08:41

"He has never called her relationships "Affairs" I have". She's single. Apparently, so has every reason to do what she likes if she wishes to OP. Also, by your own definition if he is having "Affairs" as you call them then he is, having an "Affair" with you. Right?

LauraStora · 25/11/2013 10:34

Not read all the replies, sorry, but if they converse in Italian, which you don't speak, how can you be sure what her emails say?

BeCool · 25/11/2013 11:08

Laura the H's Italian isn't that great, so he and his, conveniently (for the OP) email etc in English.

TheNaughtySausage · 25/11/2013 11:37

Oh dear.

Suggest you print this thread and keep it to read when he finds some other deluded (younger, prettier) fool.

I do feel sorry for you though. Not only has he got you right where he wants you, he's got you to LIKE it that way. Are you going to spend all your Christmases without him? Your flatmate friends will all eventually pair off and move out, marry, start families, drift away. What will you do then? Will he still want you when you're 37 and all you can hear is your biological clock booming in your ears?

thenightsky · 25/11/2013 11:39

I'm wondering now if he really goes all the way to Italy every weekend Hmm

cleofatra · 25/11/2013 11:50

I don't understand the issue tbh.
You are ok that they will not divorce and don't seem bothered about that.

You are ok that they live together after being separated for 4 years.
You are with him supporting his kids but not getting some shopping and parenting in on weekends.
You are not ok that she had relationships with other men despite being , in effect, single in your eyes.
Is the issue just that you are jealous that you are the dirty little secret?

op which place does
He consider as his residence?

YouAreMyRain · 25/11/2013 11:54

Oh and when you ask him to tell his wife about you, be prepared for his response to be that he can't tell her as she is too fragile/vindictive/jealous/still in love with him etc. in fact I wouldn't be surprised if she happens to have MH problems and is delusional about them still being together and likely to attempt suicide.

Whatever his "reasons" he will not tell her about you.

YoDiggity · 25/11/2013 12:38

If he is no living as man and wife with her then why is it necessary to go home every weekend? his children are teenagers, they could get on a plane once in a while and come to London to see him. Do they do that? I bet they don't, and I bet they don't know about you at all and would be pretty shocked to find out.

A separated father of teenagers who works abroad would not usually find it necessary to go home every weekend, if his children were aware that their parents were separated. So clearly they are not aware, which rings alarm bells for me.

And if they have been separated for several years then why on earth do they need to discuss their lack of sex by email? Confused It would be a non-issue surely? I think they have had a very rocky marriage but the fact is it IS still a marriage, in both their eyes, and you are the little piece on the side who keeps him company when he's away. A mistress in the proper old fashioned sense. She probably turns a blind eye for an easy life.

If you are happy with that then by all means carry on, but don't kid yourself that it is any more than that.

LoveandLife · 25/11/2013 12:49

I think there's a good chance none of this is true.

I think he goes home to his mother every weekend - in Manchester!

MysteriousHamster · 25/11/2013 13:17

If he lives in Italy at weekends, has an Italian wife and Italian children, I absolutely cannot believe that they email in English.

travellingbird · 25/11/2013 13:24

Do you think he is lying about his Italian language abilities? Very easy to fake.

QuintessentialShadows · 25/11/2013 13:32

... Or his wife in Manchester....

elliegoulding · 25/11/2013 13:36

*I think there's a good chance none of this is true.

I think he goes home to his mother every weekend - in Manchester!*

Oh Christ you're not shagging Gino De'Campo are you??!

LadyAlconleigh · 25/11/2013 13:56
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LurcioLovesFrankie · 25/11/2013 14:12

OP: He's such a nice man he won't leave his obviously gold-digging wife even though they never have sex, ever.

Several hundred posters: You're kidding yourself, love.

OP flounces.

Oh dear. One day you will look at this and wince. Hopefully, one day (not too long after the wince) you will be able to look at this and laugh.

Hissy · 25/11/2013 14:18

OP said he wasn't italian, and certainly only said she lives in Italy...

Confused

Immaterial now as she's long gone. We won't hear before the weekend now he's back in the country after all now isn't he....

drudgewithagrudge · 25/11/2013 16:44

How can he have been married long enough to produce teenage children and still not have mastered Italian?

Good job his wife is fluent in English.

LoveandLife · 25/11/2013 16:58

Oh good spot drudge. His Dc must have great English too.

LoveandLife · 25/11/2013 17:01

Ah posted too soon, good enough to really take advantage of their dad working in London and visit often...

feelingdizzy · 25/11/2013 17:12

My exh actually said he was still married to me when we were divorced.he had this poor woman believing that when he came to visit the kids at the weekend he was coming home.she lives about 100 miles away. He did this so she wouldn't, get clingy.
His adult son found out, I told her we weren't married. He just lies , some people do its sport to them.This man is lying to you.We share the people we are proud off.

Rufus44 · 25/11/2013 17:16

We share the people we are proud of

I love that feelingdizzy absolutely and completely true

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