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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

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CaHoHoHootz · 24/12/2012 14:42

I also would not have done anything about the DC's running around the restaurant. I have wild (but adorable) DNieces who don't seem able to sit still whilst my older DC have always been of the robot variety. I never bother to say anything unless I am asked advice. It is more relaxing for me and I don't get embarrassed on my DB and DSIL's account. How their DC's behave is their problem unless I am looking after them when I make sure they behave Confused.

I understand the OP was worried about the DC's and the waiters/waitresses safety but it wasnt exactly life or death. I personally wouldn't have said anything. However, SIL reaction was totally nuts and I think the OP has dealt with it brilliantly.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 24/12/2012 14:46

They do always tend to invite themselves over here, I would prefer to go there and be in control of how long we stay, whereas in the past they have come here at 2pm, and stayed for tea and still been here at 9pm, after bathing the kids here - SIL produces pjs out of her bag - what a coincidence!!

We have sort of gone with it as is usually when BIL is away so we think she is a bit lonely.

Yes yes to hiding the breakables! Oldest robot has got a Samsung tablet so will be warning him to keep an eye on it, as phones and DS' have been a bone of contention in the past!

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SugaricePlumFairy · 24/12/2012 14:52

She produces pj's from her bag and baths them at your house Xmas Shock.

I would keep the tablet well away from the cousins, will they bring their own favourite toys with them?

Shinyballsandtinsel · 24/12/2012 15:00

To be fair, she says she wants to bath them and put them in pjs as they will fall asleep in car. It's not so much the bathing as the marathon length of visits which have run up to 9 hours once!

I hope they bring some toys although they are generally more interested in our (much older) kid's toys, must be the spiritedness and advanced intelligence coming out!

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BoneyBackJefferson · 24/12/2012 15:01

CaHoHoHootz

As I posted up thread, my "wild (but adorable) DNiece" had hot drinks spilt on her when no-one intervened, she now has "adorable" scars.

My Friends GF has an artifical hip due to a "wild but adorable" child running into him in a pub.

CaHoHoHootz · 24/12/2012 15:09

BoneyBackJefferson. Bit sarcastic there but I take your point. Confused

Jux · 24/12/2012 15:15

Maybe you could text them saying that 28th is fine, but you have an engagement elsewhere at 5?

Shock at your sil's cheek.

Hope all goes well tomorrow and you get a sil-less Boxing Day. Happy Xmas!

SugaricePlumFairy · 24/12/2012 15:18

Please update shiny as and when, I'm sure there's still legs in this thread! Xmas Grin

financialwizard · 24/12/2012 16:32

After reading all the posts I would be saying no way to the 28th but it would take me far longer to calm down.

CuriousMama · 24/12/2012 17:14

Can't believe she would dare to come over to yours at all, she's so brass necked!!

IDontDoIroning · 24/12/2012 19:34

Just tell her the robots' batteries only last 5 hours and will need recharging after that. Oh and put bedrooms out of bounds and all expensive fragile nice toys and ekectronics well out of their reach-- harms way.

RemindMeWhatSleepIs · 24/12/2012 23:15

I hope you have a lovely Christmas at home with your DC and DH! Smile

ChristmasIsForPlutocrats · 25/12/2012 11:26

Well, guess the Robotovich household is running smoothly this morn, while the Spirit Family is in chaos, with all toys (including the parents') already broken And MIL is prob'ly drunk.

... I should be ashamed of myself, really...

PessaryPam · 25/12/2012 12:08

He he he Pluto. Merry Christmas all.

Enfyshedd · 25/12/2012 16:05

Hope you're enjoying your peaceful Christmas Shiny Xmas Smile

Jacksmania · 25/12/2012 16:46

Merry Christmas Shiny! I hope you and the robots had a lovely day Xmas Grin

Enfyshedd · 26/12/2012 07:03

...Marking place for today's update... Xmas Grin

zipzap · 27/12/2012 21:11

Op, hopefully you will be telling your drobots to give the not-so-d free spirits a run for their money - I bet sil will not be so keen on free spirit behaviour when it impinges on her or her little monsters darlings. Particularly make sure you tell them they have your full permission to copy their young cousins behaviour for the day so long as sil or cousins bear the brunt and if the little ones mess with their toys againthen they should at least attempt to do the same so that you can sit and make 'oh look, they're getting really good at being free spirits 'comments to sil whilst beaming dotingly at your dc.

In fact I'd go so far as to tell sil that as she is so keen onfree spirited behaviour you have told your dc to be like that especially for her and reward them appropriately afterwards if they manage to be suitably grim. The 3 (or 4 if dh is included) of you could have a great day playing a special sil free spirit version of mil bingo!

Shinyballsandtinsel · 28/12/2012 12:59

Quick update, am upstairs whilst SIL, BIL and free spirits are downstairs.

They are already making me have to grit my teeth. They are making so many PA comments.

Turned up at 11am, almost immediately said how much they enjoyed Christmas Day as it was so "chilled" and "relaxing" without "lots of kids" there arguing and eating everything in sight...."!

The DNs were then asking for snacks, SIL said "oh they love it around here, you always have loads of junk food in your cupboards, they don't have it at home" blatant lie

And other comments along those lines.... Constantly.

One of my neighbours has gone to town on outdoor Christmas garden decs so suggested it would be nice to walk to village playground past that house. Went ok, DNs loved looking at the plastic reindeer etc. then when walking to playground oldest child refused to hold anyone's hand, and then ran out across the road to get to the playground. We live in a village, but the road is the main road through the village so my heart was in my mouth. SIL said nothing, so did I.... With difficulty.

We are about to have lunch, then we have bought the "Up" DVD for us all to watch.

No mention so far about the MIL birthday.... Give it time, she's trying her hardest to pick a row I think judging by the PA comments

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bringbacksideburns · 28/12/2012 13:06

I think you are a bloody saint.

I would have to be tempted to say, just as they are on their way home
"Yes, i'm off to put a bit of WD40 on their hinges. They've been very busy little Robots today!"

I would have tried to get out of them coming to your house but you are a nicer person than me.

Remember - slightest passive aggressive responses - right back at her!

SugaricePlumFairy · 28/12/2012 13:09

Stay strong Shiny we are all behind you, don't let her think she can have the upper hand in your home.

She sounds like a right cow!

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 28/12/2012 13:10

Fuck me, you're a saint to put up with her them Shiny. Hope they leave at a decent time.

bringbacksideburns · 28/12/2012 13:12

Yes. Let's hope she hasn't packed their Christmas P.J's.
I'd be tempted to fake an 'emergency' phone call to run an errand by then.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 28/12/2012 13:17

We am taking our kids to see Life of Pi at 5pm, hopefully they won't invite themselves and their kids to cinema although to be on safe side have pre booked my tickets so unlikely they would get to sit next to us....

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Jux · 28/12/2012 13:29

I'd have replied "but you always have tons of crisps/sweets/crap at your house!" and probably laugh like a drain adding something along the lines of "silly mummy thinking she doesn't have crisps at home", but that would be very very inflammatory, wouldn't it?

I do hope the film is booked out. Her kids are far too young for it and would almost certainly misbehave and spoil it for everyone else.

Hope you enjoy it, and the day continues with no incident.

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