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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

OP posts:
clam · 28/12/2012 14:08

Why don't you organise some sort of electronic malfunction in your kids and generate a punch-up between yours and theirs so they have to leave for A&E early?

Re: junk food, you could always say you totally understand their choice not to give junk food as you've heard the e-numbers can exacerbate bad behaviour and hyperactivity.

lljkk · 28/12/2012 14:53

I think point is that SIL DOES have junk food in her house, just chooses not to see it as such. She seems to have lots of little self-delusions (don't we all, admittedly).

Jacksmania · 28/12/2012 14:54

Is your DH catching on to the comments, Shiny? Or is she carefully not saying anything where he can hear her?

clam · 28/12/2012 15:01

lljkk I realise that, but we seem to be in Passive Aggressive territory here, whereby calling her a big fat fibber isn't allowed.

lljkk · 28/12/2012 15:08

oops, my fault, didn't read your earlier post properly, Clam.
Not sure best retort to PA is more PA, though. I think that kind of thing just poisons the soul in long run.

(Doesn't mean you can't enjoy devising imaginary much deserved comebacks, though).

clam · 28/12/2012 15:16

Isn't that the whole point of MN though? Everyone giving advice to others that they'd never follow themselves in a million years? Xmas Grin

Gryffindor · 28/12/2012 16:05

You are a saint. There is no way that woman would be in my house - it would take me a very long time to forgive and forget her crap.

Hoping she didn't invite herself along to ruin your movie evening. Please keep us updated!

SugaricePlumFairy · 28/12/2012 17:17

How'd the day go Shiny?

ChristmasIsForPlutocrats · 28/12/2012 18:18

" she's trying her hardest to pick a row I think"

Let her have her own fight with herself or you'll regret it! Great that you've spotted this, though!

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire · 28/12/2012 18:36

Am I the only person wondering if this thread has anything to do with SIL? Confused

FobblyWoof · 28/12/2012 18:44

You are much better lady than I shiny

Hope the robots are enjoying the film! Xmas Grin

Shinyballsandtinsel · 28/12/2012 18:44

Well, not the easiest afternoon I have spent. The elephant in the room never left. The passive aggressive comments went on pretty much all day.

Kids usual free spirits, then they tried to go off upstairs to wreck our kids rooms. DH told them strictly "no, you are not going upstairs on your own" probably down to his squareness SIL did not say a word to this.

As a bonus they enjoyed "up" and we watched it too at least that stopped us having to make much conversation

Apparently SIL said MIL really enjoyed CD, and even ended up staying the night. On Boxing Day MIL said she was knackered, BIL and SIL had drunk so couldn't take her home, so she slept on the bottom bunk of DN, who got up at 3am and 5am. On Boxing Day she had a couple of glasses of wine and slept on the sofa for two hours snoring, much to the amusement of the robots.

They stayed right until we went out to the car to go to the cinema checking we were actually going out, SIL closing comment was "we would have come to the cinema but they've just watched a film, I don't want them sitting in front of a screen all day", to which DH, who had just about enough, replied "oh good, I can hear the collective sighs of relief from the other cinema goers from here, bye, thanks for coming over"... And leapt in the car and turned it on --

No arrangements made for the new year, I think it's best left as it is for a bit!

OP posts:
CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire · 28/12/2012 18:58

Shiney, I LOVE your DH! Grin He needs some kind of MN award!

Shinyballsandtinsel · 28/12/2012 19:03

I could have killed him, as soon as he had said it, he leapt in the car and turned it on it leaving me there standing in front of her! I just sort of made a garbled goodbye and "come on kids, well miss the start" and got in the car. They were all just standing there when we drove off.... They had gone by the time we returned, was half expecting them to still be there!

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trixymalixy · 28/12/2012 19:03

Brilliant! Bet your SIL was fizzing that he got the last word in!

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire · 28/12/2012 19:03
Grin
Bogeyface · 28/12/2012 19:06

So funny to hear the two different versions of Xmas day too. I wouldnt have been able to keep quiet at the "and she stayed over" bit. "Yes, MIL said you got too pissed to drive! She was soooo tired on Boxing day because the kids kept her up all night, still thats the good thing about robots, you can switch them off at night!"

Toomanyworriedsonhere · 28/12/2012 19:15

I heart your DH.
I've been lurking since the start.
Seems to have all worked out well - I love a happy ending.

Uppermid · 28/12/2012 19:30

Shines, don't take this the wrong way but I think I'm a little bit in love with your dh Grin

You just need to come up with some of your own pa comments, I love your dh's collective relief etc!! Just brilliant

I've only really read your comments, but have seen a few others who seem to be on the side if your sil, all I can say, ignore them, they obviously went to the same parenting school!!

nickelbabylyinginamanger · 28/12/2012 19:48

brilliant.
although it sounds like your sil is trying to act as perfect as she thinks you want her to be.
but it sounds so lovelily insincere Grin

SugaricePlumFairy · 28/12/2012 19:49

I too luffs your husband in a totally online anonymous way! Xmas Grin

She really is oblivious, much to the detriment of everyone else it seems.

Shiny please report back with future installments.

OneWaySystemBlues · 28/12/2012 19:50

I love your DH!

BlueberryHill · 28/12/2012 20:00

Your DH has an awesome way with words. OUtstanding

Plomino · 28/12/2012 20:54

shiny Standing ovation from here for the DH !

It's so nice to read about someone who has the balls to stand up for his family !

Worth his weight in gold that man. I hope everyone enjoyed the film . I would have taken the long route home though , just in case they were still there...

NotAnotherPackedLunch · 28/12/2012 21:09

Love your DH responses.

If he ever plans to run workshops in dealing with awkward families can I sign my DH up for the first session.