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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

OP posts:
Jacksmania · 24/12/2012 04:33

AIBU to want an update?

SpecialAgentKat · 24/12/2012 05:23

YADNBU Grin

Jacksmania · 24/12/2012 05:58

Oh good Xmas Grin

Ok. AIBU to want an update now?

Jacksmania · 24/12/2012 05:59

Hm. Why does ^^ and ** not work together to bold and italicise a word?

nickelbabylyinginamanger · 24/12/2012 10:07

the ? you had next to the *.

try

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nickelbabylyinginamanger · 24/12/2012 10:07

no, that doesn't work either!
Shock

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nickelbabylyinginamanger · 24/12/2012 10:07

now

nickelbabylyinginamanger · 24/12/2012 10:08

got it!

you do the "" then the "" the nthe word then the "" then the ""

I tried to put the * outside of the ^

Shinyballsandtinsel · 24/12/2012 11:24

Hahaha oh my god, the pressure of the thread!!!

DH went down to SILs this morning with the
Children
to drop off DNs pressies (we have had a long standing arrangement for adults not to buy each other gifts, just the kids).

DH said that BIL was quite normal, DH wasn't sure how much SIL has told BIL. BIL commented to one of our kids what a shame we weren't all going to have our big family Christmas and our DC said they didn't mind, they were excited about staying at home.

While there DH said "sorry to hear about the birthday party" to which SIL said she didn't care, the other mothers had something against her and were "clicky and funny" anyway.

Boxing Day wasn't mentioned although BIL did day how about they come over on 28th, so DH agreed to that in the interests of family peace....

Sorry bit of a boring update!

OP posts:
desertgirl · 24/12/2012 11:49

Thank you shiny, am another one who has been waiting (im)patiently for the latest... Hope you have a lovely Christmas!

clam · 24/12/2012 11:49

Xmas Grin @ children pic!

RandomMess · 24/12/2012 12:25

LOL at the other mothers having something against her, yep that will be dc that are allowed to run wild!!!

Glittertwins · 24/12/2012 12:58

Have a lovely SIL free Christmas Day! Good luck for the 28th

Mosman · 24/12/2012 13:03

Having seen my cat with her kittens the odd good wallop is dished out as is s head lock in order to wash them. I've been taking notes.

SugaricePlumFairy · 24/12/2012 13:08

Good that there wasn't an atmosphere with them when dh went around..

Hope that 28th goes okay with no tears and drama! Xmas Grin

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/12/2012 13:13

THanks for the update Shiny, not boring at all - although a bit of me wonders if BIL's "what a shame" comment was a bit passive-aggressive (you're not coming, so 'Ner!') but he probably just thinks that his house on Christmas Day is every child's dream. And then again, a bit of me wonders if SIL has actually told him that the reason her brother & family are not coming was because she disinvited them ...

See, not boring at all to a conspiracy theorist like myself Xmas Grin!

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/12/2012 13:14

Oh and do have a lovely Christmas/Boxing Day/New Year!

Iggly · 24/12/2012 13:18

PMSL at the click mind.

I'd love a SIL like you quite frankly. I don't mind telling other kids in the family and I like my kids to be told too.

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/12/2012 13:20

Mosman " I've been taking notes." Xmas Grin

EggNogRules · 24/12/2012 13:21

Why do they invite themselves over to you? Why wouldn't they ask you over to their house? Fine if it supports you to host rather than visit. A bit presumptuous?

SugaricePlumFairy · 24/12/2012 13:22

Tell dc's to hide toys of sentimental value or at risk of being broken by the spirited cousins! Xmas Wink

festivelyfocussed · 24/12/2012 13:31

I've come to this one so late my response is probably irrelevant, and also out of step with most of the others I've seen. But I have to say I don't think I would have taken the same action at G'ma's meal.
Speaking sharply to someone else's children is a bit out of line IMO, unless they're your charges for the day. I would probably have tried to enthusiastically coax them to the table(maybe with some auntie bribery) just to keep them out of harms way or spoken to SIL about being worried about them getting into an accident in the restaurant.
Anyho, you're proabbaly busy dealing with the CHristmas arangements by now, hope it goes well.

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/12/2012 13:51

festivelyfocussed

The thing is who would you rather be sat next to in a resturant?
the OP or the SiL?

I would hope for the OP everytime.

festivelyfocussed · 24/12/2012 14:13

fair comment, but I stand by my initial response in relation to managing other ppl's children. I prefer to keep things light; I find it more effective and less likely to cause offence.
but clearly I'm in a minority so I might sneak back to my smug Christmas baking session. Xmas Grin

CaHoHoHootz · 24/12/2012 14:27

That sounds like DH visit went well, I also think it is good if they come over soon'ish. You can all be polite and move on otherwise it would become a huge stalemate forever and ever.
SIL will always be a PITA but at least you are more in control now.

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