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AIBU?

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... to think this couple are extracting the urine?

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PreviouslyonLost · 18/08/2011 15:55

I work mainly part-time, DH works off-shore. Two DC, no family nearby to help out but we manage. Our eldest DC is due to start Primary School and will only be in until noon for several weeks. To accommodate this I have used the majority of my annual leave or ensured that DH is home. Another couple who live locally and whose eldest DC will be starting school at the same time are now dropping heavy hints that we should help them out by collecting and looking after their child (This would be from noon until @5pm/or 3.30pm until @5pm when going in for full-days).

There has been no direct request (yet) but lots of 'it'll all work itself out' and 'we're all in the same boat' type comments Hmm. The DW of the couple has also commented to me that they could 'drop off their DC in the mornings' at another neighbour's house - a neighbour that otherwise they do not associate with or even speak to but who is a friend of mine.

The other couple are both Primary School teachers and have been off for the Summer Holidays (47 days) ...... so .... AIBU to think that the week before school term resumes in NOT the time to start thinking about childcare, far less make assumptions that other people should take up the slack?

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hairfullofsnakes · 25/08/2011 03:12

Poor pol I'll forgive you x
If you ever get as far as Northants pop in for a cuppa!

Me too - I havent watched any more either - I loved that bloody show and the bastards ruined it for me

Now I have game of thrones, dexter, true blood, the vampire diaries and the walking dead to console myself with but I still cannot get over the way lost let me down :-(

Hope you sleeping soundly - my baby is up feeding from the breast - zzzzz...

XXxx

Tortoiseonthehalfshell · 25/08/2011 03:36

This is definitely a never-ending thread, because after POL girds her enormous bollocks and tells them definitively, once and for all, that she will not be providing free childcare for them ever (that IS what you will be saying, right POL?), she still has to tackle Issue No 2.

The dropping in at mealtimes/using laptop/etc.

Do you have a plan for that, POL?

hairfullofsnakes · 25/08/2011 06:54

Pol is going to do us all proud and bin those idiots. This could be a news article (the sun) it's so funny! That couple are the biggest piss takers I've ever read about!

bumpsoon · 25/08/2011 08:20

The golden rule of childcare , you either pay or you reciprocate .

eosmum · 25/08/2011 08:57

I'm dying to hear the update at 12 today. Don't leave us hanging too long Grin

Inertia · 25/08/2011 09:57

PinkSchmoo - though this couple are piss-taking leeches, I don't think they would just abandon their child on someone's doorstep . They are certainly guilty of taking advantage of adults , but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of actual neglect.

If it ever reaches the point of the neighbours dumping children at the doors of other people without ensuring that they are safely in the care of a responsible adult, it might be time to involve the authorities - it doesn't sound like they'd do that , and risk their jobs.

Fenella1212 · 25/08/2011 10:10

PMSL at 'The Gonad Years'.

Inertia, no neglect in the strictest sense of the word, but having such a flimsy childcare structure for a four year old experiencing a major life change is pretty awful parenting isn't it? And using other people's houses/children/toys to wear your kids out for fear of an untidy house isn't much better.

CoffeeIsMyFriend · 25/08/2011 11:31

Awaiting update for today. POL You really need to do something about these 'friends'. Dropping round at meal times and generally using your home as a drop in centre when they are hungry/their children are fed up is not on.

You may have grown a pair, but you have yet to assert yourself with them. Please do it, you will feel so much better.

Hospitality is a lovely thing, and being Scottish myself I understand that it is instilled in 'us' to offer food/drinks and generally be a good hostess when visitors arrive. But these people are taking the piss on an enormous scale. They dont reciprocate with child care or hospitality and that really isnt on. And unless you are family you just dont pop round on Christmas Eve (unless invited) for a few drinks.

Tinkerisdead · 25/08/2011 12:33

I only found this thread last night and I read through 20 pages avidly. Please come back for an update OP. These people sound so horrendous, are they really so oblivious to their own apparent rudeness?

Pishwife · 25/08/2011 12:36

"And drop them where?"

If I had been present I might have fired off a couple of party poppers in your DH's direction. I think streamers and glitter would really help to drive the point home.

poorbuthappy · 25/08/2011 12:56

Marking place for today's update...

ChaoticAngeloftheUnderworld · 25/08/2011 13:18

I think we need proper closure on the childcare issue then POL can, with mn help and suggestions, start on the popping round issue. Round 2 so to speak Grin

Lexilicious · 25/08/2011 13:55

On Scottish hospitality, CoffeeIsMyFriend, I grew up in Dundee (which I think is not a million miles away from POL) and the phrase on opening the door, if you wnt to make it clear you've got no intention of feeding your guest, is "You'll have had your tea?". It's a rhetorical question.

StealthPolarBear · 25/08/2011 14:14
petitepeach · 25/08/2011 14:20

Good God! Update please I am supposed to be going out ahem about 40 minutes ago......Grin

EldritchCleavage · 25/08/2011 14:44

Oh I love that expression 'You'll have had your tea?' Anyone else remember that daft Radio 4 comedy with Graeme Garden and Jeremy Hardy where they said it at least once in EVERY episode?

PreviouslyonLost · 25/08/2011 15:20

I thought it would be hours before I could sneak back to update, but positively sainted DH has taken the DCs out for an hour or so, and is doing the shopping ( He knows which side his MN bread is buttered on).

There is a lot of dialogue coming, I'll do my best to not make it 'I said', 'she said'. (and most of it verbatim so outing in RL a possibility Confused...oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound).

DH took DC1 to school, Mrs Fizz/Door had other DC again - no surprise there.

I said I would collect DC at 12. Preparations included power dressing, heels and all, make-up, and the sunnies on so if ODW even thought about using those creepy powers I was ready. Took DC2 and set off, saw ODW ahead, and I confess I had an attack of the collywobbles and went back in to house to compose myself. Ok, here goes. I strolled as if I didn't have a care in the world, I could see ODW and her DC2 in the playground with other parents. Walked up to her and said hi. She LAUNCHES straight into 'this having to collect them is a nightmare, what are you doing to manage it? When is (my) DH back at work?' 'We're fine until October and then I don't know what we're going to do then' (where have I heard variations on a theme that before?).

and I say...cooly, calmly, very MN'ty 'OH, I know it's been tough organising it, but DH not back at work for ages and I've used up all my annual leave for after that'...it's still not perfect, I'll have to juggle like hell some days'...then I shut up, let her fill the gaps I thought!

ODW tries again...and finally admits/asks obliquely, but I'm taking THIS as a win in making her just bloody ask the QUESTION 'we need someone to pick up DC1 and keep her until 5, at least'. By now I'm hitting my stride, can you tell? Grin, and say 'Yes, it's tough'...and shut up again. But Mercy to heaven, this is a DESPERATE woman, 'I told your DH (does she think I and DH don't talk to each other?) yesterday that we can pick up your DC at 12' says she, and adds...if you can collect our DC at 3.30pm. I give my new balls a jiggle and deliver the line with no possible response again '...and take her WHERE?

I innocently enquire after Mrs Fizz/Door...she has obviously received her MN Grow Your Own Balls seed kit as ODW admits that poor sod is doing the mornings, but has clearly made it crystal that she will NOT be picking up another child in the afternoon.

But here, here, if you had any doubts left that while I do not think this couple are the devil incarnate, they are not of this planet when it comes to playing nice.

Says ODW, 'Do you know X? (I don't, but ODW indicates that they're local. 'I was thinking of asking her, she doesn't work...pause...'but she's a bit simple' and then laughs Shock. I am mortified, there are other people here too, I do not want them to think that I am colluding with this person in any way. ODW blabbers on for a bit about this person, I'm still stunned. But she continues on, another similarly unnacceptable comment is made only a few minutes later by ODW when she asks me if another neighbour works? (This neighbour has 3 kids, all at High School and doesn't work). The problem this time is their adherence to a particular religion and it's just too much to write what ODW said about what could happen to her daughter if she used this family for Childcare. I'm too shocked to use shocked emoticon.

The final insult, from a personal point of view, is that at NO point did ODW give up the only bargaining chip she and her DH have - they're off every School Holiday - and could have said at any point in this saga 'We can offer you Childcare cover during the holidays if you could help out in term-time'. But NO, because they are inherently selfish and want it all their own way. (DH and I have always agreed anyway that we wouldn't want this couple to look after our DC, 1 or 2).

(and she IS using Lunch hour to collect at 12).

Last comment made by ODW was 'It's a lovely day and we are free to do as we please aren't we DCs?'...took that as my cue to reply 'OH, you're incredibly lucky, we^ are SO busy today aren't we DCs?'

.... and that my friends is damn well that. I'm 100% pure Balls.

I fucking LOVE you all. Thankyou.

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PreviouslyonLost · 25/08/2011 15:24

Meant to say. I even took the sunnies off and made eye contact during conversation...it's important that you know how confident I really felt!

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wheelshavefallenoffthebus · 25/08/2011 15:24

Brilliant. Well done Smile

StealthPolarBear · 25/08/2011 15:25

Well done :o That took courage

I still don't get it though - she uses her lunch hour to collect them but then where do they go? And why would she be collecting your DCs at 12 but then you collecting hers at 3.30?? Confusedx1000

LydiaWickham · 25/08/2011 15:29

well done! She can pay for childcare, why should you (or anyone else) do it for free!

ceebeegeebies · 25/08/2011 15:30

Wow, have been following this thread but not posted before - well done!! You have handled this amazingly and as another person who doesn't like confrontation and would probably have agreed to something, I take heart that it can be done Smile

Although, I echo Stealth questions - I am a bit confused and also, if she is using her lunch hour, why did she say she had the rest of the lovely afternoon with them to do what they wanted?

This couple are so selfish, it is unbelievable plus I am Shock that anyone would let their DC start school without organising childcare - how very Sad for the DC.

Blatherskite · 25/08/2011 15:36

I think the 12 o'clock pick ups are just for the first couple of weeks. The 3.30 pick ups are for the rest of term - again, I think.

Am confused as to what she's doing woth the DC's all afternoon though. Surely she has to go back to work. What would she do with the Ops DC after she'd done pick up?

lurkingmurking · 25/08/2011 15:41

I too have been watching this thread will baited breath - WELL DONE OP!

lurkingmurking · 25/08/2011 15:41

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