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OK - it's the daily Mail so no wonder it's Judgy - Coleen Rooney

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DuelingFanjo · 13/11/2009 10:33

out gigging and drinking 9 days after the birth

Is it wrong to be a little bit or mean to be even slightly judgy?

Or perhaps it should be more 'bloody good for her' ?

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DuelingFanjo · 13/11/2009 10:34

ps, there's actually no real evidence that she was drinking and anyway should it matter?

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lolapoppins · 13/11/2009 11:58

have you read some of the comments under the article though?

Poor woman. I mean, she obviously has a great life and has made a ton of money out of her 'fame' so has to expect this kind of thing, but her life, her baby. Personally, find it really hard to give a toss about how someone else chooses to raise their own child. There are lots of comments about her probably not breast feeding - OMG, why should anyone else care if she is or not!

If I was her though, I wouldn't have gone out so soon after the baby as it was obvious she would get a slating in the papers.

SausageRocket · 13/11/2009 12:16

Big deal. Does anyone really give a stuff ?

Just a chance for the mail to be sneery about someone

mankymummymoo · 13/11/2009 12:20

God doesnt she look fabulous?

andlipsticktoo · 13/11/2009 12:32

She looks amazing, what a gorgeous dress.

Who knows whether she was drinking - I doubt if she was in those heels, and there would surely be pics of her falling over if she was!

When my dc1 was 2 weeks old I went out to a friend's birthday party. To outsiders I was happy and care free, but I was desperate to get home the entire time I was out! We don't know how she was feeling, and therefore it is not appropriate to judge.

Pinkjenny · 13/11/2009 12:35

I love her dress. I'm at the rest of the article.

Flamebat · 13/11/2009 12:45

meh. i have consumed wine and left the house (in heels n everything) since having dd2.

i may have even smiled too

GreenMonkies · 13/11/2009 12:45

I don't care if she was drinking or not.

I care that her baby is 10 days old and already left (presumably overnight as she was apparently out til 1.30am) with grandparents.

Why do I care?

Because she is a role model to thousands of young girls/women. It is (in my eyes) utterly unacceptable to be flitting off on a night out when your baby is less than two weeks old, at this stage you should be at home, on the sofa/in bed, baby on breast. Not out on the town with your Gal-Pals. lipstick if she'd been desperate to get back she wouldn't have stayed out so late, no-one would have batted an eyelid if she'd popped out for a couple of hours and then scooted home to her brand new tiny baby.......

(I went to a friends birthday party when DD1 was about 14 weeks old, I stayed for about 3 hours and couldn't take it any more and went home. I would have been a weeping, leaking mess if I'd tried to go out when either of mine where 10 days old.)

mrsshackleton · 13/11/2009 12:51

Agree with Monkies, it gives her susceptible fanbase an unrealistic idea of what having bay-beez will be like. IE drop one and then go straight back on the razz with your mates

Which Coleen can do, because she no doubt has not just parents helping but maternity nurses and nannies too.

OTOH she is rich as Croesus and it's her life, she is under no obligation to anyone to stay in if she wants to go out and is weird enough to actually feel like doing so, so early

bibbitybobbityhat · 13/11/2009 12:57

I do think it would be nice if a young woman with her sort of profile could be a breastfeeder, just for once.

Flamebat · 13/11/2009 13:00

Charlotte Church breastfeeds doesn't she?

crokky · 13/11/2009 13:02

I have to say, no matter what the baby is like, it is a fact that Colleen will be bleeding as she has a wound where the placenta came away from her uterus. She looks lovely and healthy, but she still has an internal wound and I personally would be resting. She is still at risk (albeit small) of having a postpartum haemorrage.

Regarding the baby, I could not have left a baby that young. All I was doing at that stage with both mine was breastfeeding. If she wants to leave her baby at that stage, then I suppose it's up to her but I don't like the impression that it gives to the man in the street - thinking that a few days after having a baby, his wife should be back to normal.

andlipsticktoo · 13/11/2009 13:07

She may have gone home at 1.30 but she might have gone out at 11! How can we say that she is out on the 'razz' when the only evidence is a couple of pics in the Daily Myth Mail? She also says baby Kai sleeps alot and doesn't cry very much, and he was left with the grandparents.

I might raise an eyebrow if she was out regularly, but honestly, is it really worth getting your knicks in a twist monkies? Just because someone is a roll model, doesn't mean they have to behave exactly like your own idea of motherhood.

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DuelingFanjo · 13/11/2009 13:08

I thik it's really unfair for the press to imply there is something wrong with this. The baby was probably with his dad anyway seeing as Coleen was on a girls night out!

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andlipsticktoo · 13/11/2009 13:08

role model

AmazingBouncingFerret · 13/11/2009 13:10

Ohhh I thought this would be the article of when they came out the hospital. The first line of article went something like...

'every woman can be forgiven for looking tired and exhausted after giving birth, especially if its their first...'

Could only of been written by a man...

'Forgiven' - pfft

'Especially if their first' - do fuck off love.

Had to stop reading after that!

With regards to this one, I dont think I would go out so soon (wouldnt feel upto it)
but if she felt healthy enough and im sure the baby was looked after then its up to her!

Meglet · 13/11/2009 13:15

Good point about what expectations it will set for other parents. She does look good though .

But she could still be bf and have expressed enough for the evening. Even without staff to help I was expressing at day 5 and building up a supply in the freezer whilst my dd piled on weight. And CR has possibly had more cuddles with her baby than I ever gave mine at that age as I was juggling general housework / have we got enough nappies / food etc.

But, no, I wouldn't have gone out so soon, although I had cs's so I have no idea what its like to feel relatively normal after a birth.

GreenMonkies · 13/11/2009 13:24

She does look good in those pictures, but don't forget she'll have had her hair and make-up "done" and she'll have industrial magic knickers on under that floaty-oh-so-belly-hiding dress.

She'll also still be bleeding etc. She should be home resting, 10 days PP is too early to be out like this for so many reasons!

GreenMonkies · 13/11/2009 13:26

(bibbity, I deliberately didn't mention feeding methods, but I think it's pretty safe to assume she's not breastfeeding, and again, this is a shame because of her "role model" status)

Flamebat · 13/11/2009 13:38

why is it "safe to assume" that?

I was back in my larger jeans by 5 days, and in all my normal clothes within 3 weeks, actually weighing less than I started out. I could easily have worn that dress without industrial knickers.

She was about 9 days late wasn't she? Probably discussed the concert during pregnancy thinking about due dates, being early etc and decided that if she felt up to it when the time came, she would go.

I have felt completely normal after this birth (nothing like the first 2) - were it not for tonsillitis (and me not being able to express enough milk at that stage due to mangled nipples) I would have been feeling fine for the night out.

Flamebat · 13/11/2009 13:39

Oh and I know several mums (a couple on MN) who haven't been able to breastfeed and have been giving 100% expressed milk by 9 days.

TheCrackFox · 13/11/2009 13:48

She maybe only popped out for an hour or two.

She may be BF, how can you tell by looking at a woman? She gave birth in her local NHS hospital - not the standard private elective CS that a lot of Slebs go for.

thedollshouse · 13/11/2009 14:01

We were encouraged in our antenatal class to go out and get back to our normal life after the babies were born. I felt inadequate as loads of other mums had gone for a night out a week after the birth, I just didn't feel up to it.

If Colleen wants to go for a night out it is nobodys business but her own. The baby was in the care of its grandparents. I went out for lunch about 2 weeks after ds was born, leaving ds with grandparents. Why is it a crime?

lolapoppins · 13/11/2009 14:32

it's a 'crime' because there are a lot of people who just love to judge the way others choose to live thier lives, it makes some people feel so mcu better about their own lives.

She will get a lot of flack for this, and possibly many, many other things she does as a parent, but I guess that is the trade off you sign up for when you choose the celebrity lifestyle.

mrsshackleton · 13/11/2009 16:02

Exactly, lola, if you live by OK! mag you die by its readers judging you and bitching about you

dollshouse, I find it quite weird that an antenatal class would encourage new mums to get back to normal lives asap. It plays down the overwhelmingness of childbirth and the early days (for some mums, not all) and would have made me feel very pathetic indeed.