OK - it's the daily Mail so no wonder it's Judgy - Coleen Rooney

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out gigging and drinking 9 days after the birth

Is it wrong to be a little bit or mean to be even slightly judgy?

Or perhaps it should be more 'bloody good for her' ?

Good for Coleen - sorry she doesn't fit your idea of a parent Green Monkies; isn't it nice that women have a choice about how they choose to live their lives? It may not be your choice but who are you to prescribe what she should be doing after her baby's birth?
I went to a party 2 weeks after my dd was born. Yes, I was breastfeeding btw. And I had a good time and a drink too.

Leave her alone FFS.
In the words of JT 'Shuffle the playlist, sister.'
(I am so adopting that phrase as my own)

Good for her!

The baby was with family, she's not dumped him in the cloakroom with her coat and bag.

I went to a neighbours party 5 days after having DD,dressed up and wearing makeup.
I was having a wonderful time with my friends and DH but managed to overhear two sniffy(jealous?)bitches saying that I could'nt be much of a mother if I could leave a 5 day old baby,I wish now I had given them a piece of my mind TBH,I was 5 mins away from home and only planned to be there for 2 hours and if you are up to it physically I don't see why you should'nt go out.

I went out to a gig a couple of weeks after dd1 was born. We'd bought the tickets months before so why not? I'd had a straightforward birth, I was home soon after, birth is not an illness you know!

And yes, I was bf, and yes, it's perfectly possible to express milk and leave your baby with a responsible babysitter, and no,the baby didn't explode or disintegrate.

Yes, I entirely agree that life changes when you have a baby. It doesn't mean it stops though.

An odd way to behave with such a young baby. But we can't all be natural, born mothers. TBH, i feel sorry for her. It must be shit not to be utterly elated and inseperable from your newborn.

Yes. She is clearly not a natural born mother. Burn the witch.

No burning required! Just quite sad that her friends and beyonce seemed a more enjoyable and appealing prospect than her own darling newborn.

Well I don't know about your newborn but at 9 days all mine was capable of was pooing, sleeping and drinking so I can quite see why time with her friends and Beyonce for a FEW HOURS might seem appealing.

At 9 days, all 3 of mine were gorgeous, squishy, milk monsters who were on the breast or sleeping on my front. If they were in the moses basket i was usually watching them sleep! It's horses for courses i guess. Maybe i am lucky to have enjoyed the early days with my babes so much.

Chattermouse, would you just listen to yourself??
'But we can't all be natural born mothers'.

WTF? Who's to say she isn't elated about his birth?
Just because she wants a couple of hours to herself she's being judged??

Tigerbear - I stand by that statement! This thread has made me aware that i am far luckier than a lot of women. There is nothing nicer to me than the babymoon period. It would seem that not everyone experiences this though.

'Yeah, because the area she is from (not far from where I live, so I know it) is renowned for it's classy, caring, breastfeeding, attachment parenting and babymooning for optimal infant-mother bonding and general enlightened parenting. '

i'm from that area thanks! what a nasty bitchy thing to say

Vinegartits - I agree, that's an awful thing to say. It seems that a few people on this thread feel it's ok to put others down, simply because they don't fit into their own oh so perfect moulds of what a real mother should be (and the area those perfect mothers live in - why did you feel you had to say that lovely comment Greenmonkies??).

Oh and here is another one 'the greatest number of women who choose not to breastfeed are those from the kind of background that Coleen Rooney came from'

Utterly vile, disgusting, snobbery of the worst kind, i can only assume you are a bitter, twisted, old munter from your comments greenmonkies

oh whats that? you dont like my assumptions of you? well i dont like your assumptions about women from my sort of background

she only went to a concert and drinks afterwards,...if she feels up to it and has great parents willing to babysit then good on her

greenmonkies you remind me why i've stayed away from mn for so long

what unpleasant judgmental garbage you spout

I'm not into attachment parenting or babymooning but that doesn't make my parenting "unenlightened".

I am very enlightened - I know about these parenting methods and choose not to adopt them.

NOthing ignorant about that.

chattermouse - I don't think you sound lucky at all! People who are happy don't judge others for doing things differently.

Why can't she be utterly elated with her newborn but also enjoy having some time out? I was utterly elated with all 3 of mine, but as I said, I was also utterly capable of expressing milk for my darling firstborn and enjoying a gig when she was two weeks old.

Do you think it makes you a better mother because yours were velcroed to your chest?

My health visitor called me lazy fofr refusing to go to Tesco to do the weekly shop with the baby on the bus at 2 weeks post partum. (I'd mentioned that dh would do it when he got home from work)I HATE this double pressure, that women should be up and about doing all the drudgery straight after birth but god forbid they enjoy themselves.

There is no way I would have left either of my DCs at that age (or for a good number of weeks after). I wanted to be close to them, and wouldn't have felt at all comfortable going out and leaving them (even with family) at only 9 days old. They were both feeding pretty much constantly and wouldn't have taken a bottle of EBM. BUT different people have different babies and maybe her baby is fine with being with other people, takes a bottle, and sleeps amazingly. Lucky her if so!
BUT I do think that it sends a message out to people that having a baby doesn't need to affect your lives. And I think that is a very strange and unrealistic message.
And BTW, I think it is terrible that Wayne Rooney went to 'work' the day after the baby was born.

It really depends I think on whether you have extended family you trust around. If you do, leaving a baby is no big deal, If you don't it appears impossible.

Violethill - I JUDGE! I have never understood the musnet 'ooh don't be so judgy' attitude.

Hell yes, i judge lots of people for lots of things evry single day. I am not in the least bit ashamed of this. We all do it. Society does it. Courts do it! It has no bearing on happiness. If you don't judge then God help you, you must be as green as the trees. One day you'll wise up .

I don't think it makes me a better mother. I just think it means that i took on board the advice given by midwives and professionals re not expressing at 9 days and thereby running risk or creating 'nipple confusion' and or overstimulating my milk supply. At 9 days i was busy making sure bf'ing was becoming well established and that i was helping baby to gain weight. Gigging was a lesser (ahem) concern, lol.

she has got a few nannies and keen grandparents, so nothing is big deal.
yes its a bit soonbut hey they live different life.
i went wedding 10 days after had ds, and i looked pregnant. she looks fab, though