OK - it's the daily Mail so no wonder it's Judgy - Coleen Rooney

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out gigging and drinking 9 days after the birth

Is it wrong to be a little bit or mean to be even slightly judgy?

Or perhaps it should be more 'bloody good for her' ?

Actually chattermouse, you are not my friend. I would like to say more than that but the rules do not allow . I am honestly shocked at how shallow, snobbish and nasty some people on here can be! This thread was quite an inane one, but is seems to have brought out the absolute worst in some people!

Porto !!

MN does not 'get' under my skin. You are all just little names on my screen. I have nothing against you .

yep,dislike post not poster.words on a screen,witty riposte and sign off

chattermouse, are you troll God or something? well I don't know what to say! Feck off maybe?

First time i've been called troll!

Just honestly can't bring myself to dislike any of you......

correctamundo!cant dislike anonymous words on screen

Roneef PosieParker and Greenmonkies: Shocked at your prehistoric views.

I had a my first dc on my 23rd Birthday. Breatfed.

Co slept.

Lost all my baby weight within 2 weeks. Me and my size 8 jeans went out without baby at 2 weeks. He stayed with his dad. Expressed.

I bet you hate me

Had sex 1 week post c section after all my childrens births.

No, not jealous and don't hate you. Find it rather silly that you claim to have lost four stone in two weeks, but hey ho whatever makes you tick.

I think people that are keen to go out and carry on their social life really are rather sad in the first couple of weeks. Why can't a baby make a difference to your life? Why shouldn't a baby make a difference?

posie, I really don't get how this daring to go out within weeks of giving birth somehow equates to not giving a stuff about becoming a parent, or caring about your baby? More sweeping assumptions and unbearable smugness!

As someone said much earlier, no-one gave Wayne a hard time for going to work the next day!

Not one of us can know how Coleen feels about anything. Say I posted that I had a baby 10 days ago but had the opportunity to go out for a few hours. Now I feel great, baby is well settled and sleeps a lot. There is milk in the fridge and dad/grandma will be there. The whole experience has been quite overwhelming and a night out with the girls will cheer me up no end.

Now I would expect a range of responses - some saying why not, some probably outraged. That's fair enough. And I would be here to defend myself and explain my motivation.

What I would not expect is comments about my weight, my appearance, my social status, my upbringing, my intelligence, how much money I had, that it was the start of the slippery slope to neglect of my child etc. I would consider that to be totally unreasonable!

And when people are called up on why they being so nasty - oh it's only words, we're all friends here.....and no-one has yet explained how any of this is hurting the baby!

I'm not smug and this is MN.

Why is it that because I find the idea of a parent going out on the town within a couple of weeks of their baby being born mean that I think they should have a life of misery and never going out?

Nobody has said she doesn't care about her baby or that she's a shit parent, just that they think she should have avoided nights out for the first couple of weeks at least.

It's just so modern to carry on as you were before a baby it's pathetic, bloody posh spice leaving the hospital brandishing her painfully skeletal body. Yuk yuk yuk. Nothing about motherhood is acceptable anymore, even resting with your baby.

I am struggling to get worked up about this, to eb honest.

'NEW MUM GOES OUT FOR A BEVVY!'. And?

A lot of the anti-going-out comments seem to be based around shock at the fact that she would want to.

Are newborn babies really that fascinating? Is it so wrong to not want to stare at your baby 24/7?

I didn't feel the need to rest with my baby for a fortnight after giving birth. I had a natural straightforward birth, established bf without problems and could express milk without it affecting my supply. I was elated to have a baby. So was DH.

So what exactly is wrong with going out?

It's the crucial question which the likes of PP and chattermouse cannot answer, except for illogical mutterings about it being 'sad' (er, nope, I wasn't sad, not one bit, and my baby was perfectly contented) or absurd allusions to it 'affecting the ability to bond' (bollocks!)

Sadly there are always going to be some mummy martyrs who think that by lying in bed helplessly for months with an infant attached to them is making them a 'better parent'.

ah thanks for sorting that one out thesecondcoming...... silly me, should've realised, those of us who go out of the house without our children don't love them! That's what pp and chattermouse have been trying to say really isn't it!!

I couldn't have gone anywhere after DS1, was a knackered blubbering wreck for a good few weeks.

With DS2 I felt loads better, I would have gone out if I'd had the chance if I'm honest. Although my humungous leaking boobs and painful epi stitches would probably have prevented me bumping and grinding at a Beyonce concert.

All power to Colleen tbh. I have friends who went out in the first few weeks, I wasn't disgusted just slightly envious.

Its funny how those who think its ok to go out and have some 'you' time a couple of weeks after having a baby, also think its ok to not want to go out either, but those who don't think its right, cant seem to accept that some women might want to

Cant you open up your tiny old fashionedminds a little bit and admit that, although you might not want to, its perfectly acceptable for the next women to want to do it, its not mean, its not modern, and its not harming the baby

Stop judging other mothers by your own standards, live and let live a little, or is that to hard for you?

What isn't fascinating about a first baby in those first two weeks?

I think Colleen and her PR wheel thought it was a good idea for her to get snapped. I think it's pretty shoddy for either parent to be out partying in the first two weeks, not just women.

Enough time wasted on this WAG.

hides thread....eeeewwwwww.

Babies arent fascinating in the first few weeks, they may be gorgeous and cute, and bonding with your baby in the first few weeks is a wonderful, enlightening experience, but they certainly are not fascinating, they eat, sleep and shit, what is fascinating about that? or did yours jump up out of its cot and start break dancing? now that would be fasinating

I was so deeply in love with my babies that I was fascinated by them, the first was like watching a miracle even when he slept.

Now I really am hiding this thread.

Posie for someone who finds her kids so fascinating you spend a lot of time on here! What will you do when they no longer find you fascinating?If they ever did? I can''t believe you are so young and smart with such archaic views on motherhood.

It seems attachment parents can be as judgey as the Daily Mail reader on an especially rigid day. And I AM a flipping attachment parent.

Her baby, her boobs, her business. Leave the poor woman alone.

Motherhood is an overwhelming, life changing experience that affects each and every individual woman differently, why can you not accept that PP? i find you utterly bizarre