Thread 7 Burnham : Teimlo’r hwyl - feel the hwy

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Jenrick’s gonna Jenrick. Nothing Reform comes out with shocks me now.

This is an interesting take on them.

https://archive.ph/5TRjj

He has given her a lot of friendly press, she has given him what, tax breaks?

That link won't load for me.

Oh not again. What is it with me and links? I’m so sorry. I’ll see if I can c+p.

I think archive has stopped working for me. I tried different browsers.

ETA, it worked in private browsing.

Farage admits that donations scandal shows Reform ‘will make mistakes’
Look over here, not over there”, so the maxim goes. And it’s not hard to imagine exactly what Nigel Farage might be trying to cover up with his brand new (and transparently racist), <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nigel-farage-asylum-sytem-reform-uk-b3064895.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">all-singing, all-dancing asylum plans: his <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-reform-donations-undercover-scandal-b3045456.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">personal donations scandal.

The Reform UK leader, as we know, <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nigel-farage-mps-house-of-lords-parliament-b2798812.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">is being investigated by the parliamentary standards watchdog over a potential breach of the MP’s code of conduct, related to a £5m personal gift he received from a crypto billionaire two years ago. While Farage maintains it was an “unconditional personal gift” and not one he needed to declare, the results of <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-reform-parliament-watchdog-investigation-b2798779.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">that review are due any day now. And it might not be pretty <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/voices/yes-nigel-farage-really-could-be-prime-minister-in-2029-b2744301.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">for the wannabe PM.

Hey presto! Something shiny and dazzling and cruel for us all to stare at, to varying degrees of horror and/or admiration: plans outlined today by the very same Farage, proposing a homogeneous Britain <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/nigel-farage-reform-leave-to-remain-b2831401.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">under Reform rule. In his version of the narrative, asylum-seekers will be prohibited from seeking sanctuary in the UK for five years – beginning with a full halt of the asylum system in totofor a full parliamentary term, with all active applications declared null and void.

Under Farage’s one-note vision of Britain, all legal refugee routes, asylum tribunals and existing resettlement schemes would also be scrapped, and rather than hearing roughly 90,000 pending asylum and humanitarian protection appeals, a Reform government would simply deport the claimants – Poof! – and the poor people are gone. It’s a bit like a “fantasy football” future for the country, but with actual human lives at stake.

It’s no surprise that Farage is choosing to broadcast this<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/ann-widdecombe-nigel-farage-london-reform-uk-jo-cox-b3064330.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> today – after all, <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-poll-burnham-labour-farage-voting-intention-tracker-b3062020.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Labour has widened its lead over Reform in the polls with a five-point lead, thanks to the “Burnham bounce”; and <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-raf-fairford-arrests-reform-uk-b3058253.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Farage has faced competition on the right, too, from Rupert Lowe’s Restore Britain, losing its lead in voting intention on average since Burnham became PM.

Far-right asylum proposals guarantee Farage headlines when he needs them most; plus applause from the kind of voter who thinks that <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gosport-anti-migrant-protests-english-channel-b3061267.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">swarming to Portsmouth to shout and throw things at a dinghy full of terrified refugees is a valiant use of a Saturday morning. He knows where his fanbase lies, does Nige. Head seawards and you’ll find them there, spitting.

But what we’re not looking at is often precisely what we should be looking at – and we should be looking very closely at Nigel Farage. For regardless of what happens with his personal donation furore, or his party’s (<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5TRjj/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/reform-channel-4-news-metropolitan-police-bridget-phillipson-b3062739.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Reform UK is currently under police investigation following a foreign donations “sting” by Channel 4, last month), it’s always telling to see what desperate men do when they’re feeling scared.

The unsavoury thing about Reform, you see, is that whenever they’re under pressure, they turn on the nearest vulnerable victim. And under these hardline asylum proposals, it is women and girls who will suffer most. It’s not even buried in the rhetoric – it’s there for all to see.

Well I painstakingly c+p’d it and it’s been censored. I give up.

The unsavoury thing about Reform, you see, is that whenever they’re under pressure, they turn on the nearest vulnerable victim. And under these hardline asylum proposals, it is women and girls who will suffer most. It’s not even buried in the rhetoric – it’s there for all to see

It wpuld have had the c-word in it.

It does, once

It is a shame MNHQ can't auto-delete the festering racism on the site as efficiently as it does the c-word.

Isn’t it just?

I get what you're saying and you might be right. But I still think that we should all be shocked by this kind of statement, and that it's a problem if we're not.

I just really worry that we're all being slowly boiled like the proverbial frog.

The shock value may have gone but the abhorrence hasn’t. It’s not unreasonable to expect Jenrick and Yusuf to come out with vile utterances. What would really shock and appal me would be if they said something that didn’t disgust me. I’d really worry about myself.

Well there’s no such thing as a free trip to Greece - so Badenoch will have offered Murdoch something.

Having a plethora of media (tv and print) guaranteeing positive stories is v useful.

Chants of 'Don't protect the women, we can fight. We don't need your fascist shite' rang out in Glasgow tonight. As anti-fascists, women's rights groups and trade unionists protested against 'patriot platform' and their supporters pushing their racist agenda in the city.

Things you love to see ✊

https://bsky.app/profile/irlagainstfascism.bsky.social/post/3mxpfzdmhgc26

Their statements becoming increasingly more obnoxious reminds me of those that have porn addiction. They end up with such hideous images that would shake people to the core. The addict doesn't see it though.

One of the usual suspects on here argued with me about that. Said it had shifted - to the far left…
I honestly didn’t have the time or crayons to argue with that sort of batshittery.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/oct/13/nigel-farage-reform-robert-jenrick-small-boats-royal-marines-lethal-force

Jenrick's remarks were 'misconstrued'. As in he was only messing with you.

Locker room banter you say?

As I said yesterday the 'locker room banter' excuse.

It's just a game, like the actual game they created.

One hand clearly doesn’t know what the other’s doing. If nothing else brings them down that will. Imagine the quarrels over the manifesto.

Of course, the narrative is now that Big Ballsy Nigel has been forced to walk back remarks, rather than double down and bluster.

Hardly likely to impress the more primal Reform supporters. But it could push them to Restore.

It's ironic that for a movement mired in cr*pto, there is so little understanding of the basis of proof of work currencies. Which is that the more you mine, the harder it gets. Ultimately the same applies to the ore of right wing hatred. It is a finite resource, and eventually mines will be exhausted. (Plus the fact the more of there is, the less it is worth).

It's up to Jenrick whether he considers himself put back in his box, or if he wants to rebut the rebuttal and continue laying the ground for his eventual coup.

They are still pretending that the armed forces are going to enter French waters and force migrants on to French beaches. Without the French authorities murmuring a word.

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