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Thread 2 Burnham : Coragem e Esperança.

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DuncinToffee · 23/07/2026 09:14

Welcome to our long running thread for political discussion, general chit chat, a friendly hug and taxes in kind

Flowers🍦 for anyone who needs them

New PM, new thread title, the discussion continues.

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/07/2026 09:24

First in to pay my tax - thanks as always Duncin.
Hopefully this thread will be a little more civilised than the last one.🙏
Sybil emerged from her new box yesterday evening - so clearly then needed a rest...

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PickAChew · 23/07/2026 09:31

Thanks, Duncin.

The dog ate my tax.

BIossomtoes · 23/07/2026 09:36

Thanks Duncin. Tax time has rolled round pretty fast this time.

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SerendipityJane · 23/07/2026 09:49

Owl tax today

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placemats · 23/07/2026 09:59

ETA.

placemats · 23/07/2026 10:01

Try again

Pink hibiscus, woodbine and clouds!

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/07/2026 10:04

Absolutely love the owls. - I went to an exhibition of Hieronymus Bosch works a few years ago - he had a thing about owls and this sketch was there. (Voluntary additional tax)
There seems to be some debate whether Owls signify wisdom, ignorance, death, or deceit in his works. Seems strangely appropriate on a political thead.

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SerendipityJane · 23/07/2026 10:20

More than 120 millionaires.. have signed an open letter urging PM Andy Burnham to tax their wealth. The campaign, called 'Proud to Pay' says a 2% tax on wealth over £10m could raise £24 billion a year.

Gillian Keegan, former Conservative MP, said on Newsnight that they can already pay the extra tax if they wanted to.

(a) who says they haven't ?
(b) it's interesting that irregular donations of millions seems to be a "go to" policy for Tories. Interesting.

MzHz · 23/07/2026 10:28

Hello.

curious. As a Portuguese speaker the title grabbed my attention- what’s the deal with that?

paying a flat 2% over 10m seems fair. It’s the “low” millionaires that seem to be the low hanging fruit, which given the amount of UHNW individuals we have here, they can easily afford to pay more. The concept of people being billionaires is just wrong.

I understand there is a thread tax to pay. I give you the most pampered hound of the shires.

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/07/2026 10:53

Welcome @MzHz.
These threads tend to have foreign language titles for some reason i don't know why, I just spend a lot of time using google translate 😆

placemats · 23/07/2026 10:55

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/23/who-is-miatta-fahnbulleh-the-radical-thinking-new-uk-energy-secretary

This is a positive article about Fahnbulleh, the new energy secretary for state. Note her resignation letter to Starmer.

" "We have not acted with the vision, pace and ambition our mandate for change demands of us,” she told Keir Starmer in her blunt resignation letter."

Who is Miatta Fahnbulleh, the radical-thinking new UK energy secretary?

Selection of economist formerly at helm of green thinktank marks continuation of decarbonising Miliband era

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/23/who-is-miatta-fahnbulleh-the-radical-thinking-new-uk-energy-secretary

TemperanceWest · 23/07/2026 11:00

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/07/2026 10:53

Welcome @MzHz.
These threads tend to have foreign language titles for some reason i don't know why, I just spend a lot of time using google translate 😆

I can't remember how it started.

Welcome @MzHz gorgeous dog you have there.

Spandauer · 23/07/2026 11:10

Another day, another new thread! Thanks @DuncinToffee

Cat & Dog tax:
You, boy Burnham! We want 50% off all treats!

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Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:14

Ach, I only paid tax a few days ago. This thread is bleeding me dry, I tell you.

Cheguevarahamster · 23/07/2026 11:15

Thanks for the new thread @DuncinToffee . Missed a lot of the old thread as it moved so quickly. Think Burnham is off to a good start. Small steps and mainly positive vibes. Will pay tax when I can.

SerendipityJane · 23/07/2026 11:16

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 23/07/2026 10:53

Welcome @MzHz.
These threads tend to have foreign language titles for some reason i don't know why, I just spend a lot of time using google translate 😆

It's a prophylactic. Seems to keep bad faith posters away.

I'll leave others to speculate on what mechanisms may be at play.

BIWI · 23/07/2026 11:18

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:14

Ach, I only paid tax a few days ago. This thread is bleeding me dry, I tell you.

Too much yacking!

Sleepy tax.

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SerendipityJane · 23/07/2026 11:20

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:14

Ach, I only paid tax a few days ago. This thread is bleeding me dry, I tell you.

If you don't like it, you can always emigrate to a low tax thread.

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:22

Maybe I'll just become one of those people living in the lap of luxury on UCs. I'll get a goat and a flat screen TV and have 17 children and a posh cat. But no tax to pay so the goat and cat remain enigmatic.

LizzieW1969 · 23/07/2026 11:23

Thank you for the new thread! Here’s my cat tax payment - photos of Lizzie and Lighting sent to me by the cat sitter (Mittens was hiding 🤣); I do miss my 3 furry friends whilst I’m away from home, although obviously I’m enjoying Center Parcs right now! 🙂

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Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:24

placemats · 23/07/2026 10:55

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jul/23/who-is-miatta-fahnbulleh-the-radical-thinking-new-uk-energy-secretary

This is a positive article about Fahnbulleh, the new energy secretary for state. Note her resignation letter to Starmer.

" "We have not acted with the vision, pace and ambition our mandate for change demands of us,” she told Keir Starmer in her blunt resignation letter."

Wow, she sounds impressive.

SpidersAreShitheads · 23/07/2026 11:24

Being quite new to this series of threads, I have to confess to not quite understanding the tax thing 🫣

However, I submit a photo of a little bee that got stuck in my skylight, being revived with sugar water in the garden. We thought he was almost dead so were delighted when he flew off invigorated!

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Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2026 11:25

SpidersAreShitheads · 23/07/2026 11:24

Being quite new to this series of threads, I have to confess to not quite understanding the tax thing 🫣

However, I submit a photo of a little bee that got stuck in my skylight, being revived with sugar water in the garden. We thought he was almost dead so were delighted when he flew off invigorated!

BeesAreNotShitheads!

Cheguevarahamster · 23/07/2026 11:26

SpidersAreShitheads · 23/07/2026 11:24

Being quite new to this series of threads, I have to confess to not quite understanding the tax thing 🫣

However, I submit a photo of a little bee that got stuck in my skylight, being revived with sugar water in the garden. We thought he was almost dead so were delighted when he flew off invigorated!

I absolutely adore your username. 😂Welcome.

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