I'm no fan of Donald Trump, but..

[TheFilliesWillRiseAgain]

I'm no fan of Trump but imagine if Biden or Harris had won the 2024 election:

Maduro would still be destroying Venezuela

The Ayatollah would still be killing his own people in Iran

Iran would still have nuclear weapons

There would probably still be Israeli hostages in Gaza

India and Pakistan could be at war

As could Armenia and Azerbaijan; Rwanda and DRC; Egypt and Ethiopia; and Cambodia and Thailand

Russia would be in a much stronger position in Ukraine

Other NATO countries would be spending less on defence.

He's not very good domestically but that's an incredible record on foreign affairs. Let's face it: The world would be on fire if Biden or Harris had won. Trump is seen as a strong man around the world and, outside of the west, that's probably respected.

Yes I’m not sure any women would want this.

Are you seriously espousing Trump as an arbiter of peace?

For fucks sake.

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most of these so called supporters you talk about will be fanatical supporters of the IR (mainly men) who cheer when a woman has their eyes gauged out or is sentenced to death because they have been raped!

Quite possibly, but that changes nothing about the fact the Iranian regime has a degree of support in both rural communities and with working class, less enlightened urbanites.

You’re obviously an IR sympathiser!

Really? I'd love to see how you've reached this conclusion, because it's news to me.

The US has withdrawn aid to Ukraine, has it not?

The help Ukraine had was from Biden's presidency

Do you actually think he made the world a safer place by declaring was on another country unilaterally without congressional approval during Ramadan? That’s war crimes right there.

You could just say you’re a MAGA and have drunk the cool aid but I haven’t. And by the way, it was Trump who stopped the agreement with Iran that Obama made to control weapons and has now made war to control weapons. You literally couldn’t make this shit up. The impact on the rest of the world is huge.

Well what do you suggest should have been done with Iran? Some people on these posts support protesting on the streets every week in the UK to interfere in the Israel/Gaza conflict, but the same people think that the West and America should keep out of the Iran situation - a very dangerous regime which is hated by their own people, and who are developing nuclear weapons? Why do some think the lives of the Palestinians matter more that the Iranians?

Yes. and insignificant little countries like Greenland should be grateful he knows their name and can possibly point to them on a map. Cubans should be so grateful for the sanctions that are stopping baby milk being available.

And , heck the man is going to get that pesky oil out from Alaska no matter what the irreversible environmental damage so let’s all give him a cheer, let’s raise the roof of that glorious new ballroom he has unilaterally destroyed hall the White House to build , it’s really good to know it isn’t just other countries he is prepared to fuck over.

You're spot on OP. But people on mumsnet are generally very 'progressive' and enlightened so any mention of the Bad Man is a big no-no

I'm no fan of Trump but imagine if Biden or Harris had won the 2024 election:

How the fuck do you think Biden was going to win the 2024 election when he wasn’t running??? 🤣🤣🤣

Seriously, you need to educate yourself before you publish your thoughts online. You just sound like an ill informed fool at the moment.

Trump is nothing but an unhinged, paedophilic psychopath.
Please don't make out he's a peacemaker. FFS.
Absolute morons.

Trump will do anything to deflect the conversation about Jeffrey Epstein.

Anything. Even start WW3. OP you are sadly VERY naive about his intentions and influence. He deliberately chose countries that cannot defend themselves. He is likely increasing his personal wealth in both Venezuela and Iran beyond any thing most of us could dream of.

This man is pure evil. Just as bad as the Ayatollah. You just can't see it.

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You think that the world is a safer place because Trump has started multiple wars/attacks on other soverieign countries and has funded/continued others?! Give your head a good wobble @TheFilliesWillRiseAgain and then stop swallowing the Western media whole.

Go Donald - Islamic Revolutionary Guard next on the list! Anyone who shoots their own people in the streets must go!

Anyone claiming they know how the situation in Iran is going to turn out isn’t being serious. You can’t just claim a victory in Iran because the leader is dead. How many times have we seen the USA celebrate that a leader has been killed only for the situation for the people in that country to not change?

Also your comment about Ukraine is hard to take seriously. I’m not sure how anyone could make the argument that Trump is strong against Putin. The man gushed over a signed pic Putin had sent him.

Why would you be happy about innocent people getting caught in the crossfire? I just don’t understand that attitude.

Er, the equivalent would be if people were protesting to bomb Israel and kill the current leadership. Instead, they are supporting using political pressure to stop the genocide being commited by Israel. Iran has already been sanctioned by the West for decades. Try to think more clearly, for goodness sakes!

You are a sucker for his propaganda. He is managed to make the world a much more dangerous place due to his rash and often illegal decision making. This has massively destabilised the relationships between the Middle East and the West and we could well be on the verge of another world war.We also know the way that the Israeli military conduct themselves in war and there has on the first day of strikes on Iran been a targeted attack on a primary school. Educate yourself..

Let’s be honest. You’re not bothered about any impact on the rest of the world. You just hate Trump so much that you’re prepared to take chances with a deranged regime who could have had a far more reaching impact on us all in the future. An evil regime has been wiped out - still some way to go to make sure an equally evil leader doesn’t step in, but the world is a safer place after yesterday. The only issue I can see is that the UK don’t have any defences against any missiles coming our way if Iran do choose to target us. But that’s down to crappy governments here not spending on our defence like the majority of other countries do.

Yes, definitely. Highly likely that the Israelis have lots of dirt on Trump from the JE connection that he is trying to keep hidden.

Totally irrelevant point you’re making there……

Donald is that you?

Trump has lost lots of support from his MAGA base because he seems far more interested in supporting Israel and attacking other countries than he does in his own voters. I feel sorry for them.

The staggering level of ignorance on this thread is mind boggling. How can people not see through this warmonger, criminal, alleged paedophile? How can you celebrate him. Are you blind?

We've been here before. More than once this century. You are delusional if you think the person who replaces the Ayatollah will be better. There's a good chance he'll be worse.

But hey let's have a draft dodger start a war for the sake of hiding some documents.