I'm no fan of Donald Trump, but..

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I'm no fan of Trump but imagine if Biden or Harris had won the 2024 election:

Maduro would still be destroying Venezuela

The Ayatollah would still be killing his own people in Iran

Iran would still have nuclear weapons

There would probably still be Israeli hostages in Gaza

India and Pakistan could be at war

As could Armenia and Azerbaijan; Rwanda and DRC; Egypt and Ethiopia; and Cambodia and Thailand

Russia would be in a much stronger position in Ukraine

Other NATO countries would be spending less on defence.

He's not very good domestically but that's an incredible record on foreign affairs. Let's face it: The world would be on fire if Biden or Harris had won. Trump is seen as a strong man around the world and, outside of the west, that's probably respected.

Nope

No country should have nuclear weapons. Trump hasn’t stopped anyone having them.

😆 OK.

You are a BIT a fan of Trump, though, aren’t you? A bit? Tell the truth and shame the devil…..

The Iranian people are very pleased that the US and Israel implemented attacks on Iran. They want freedom from the oppressive and cruel IR regime, but because it doesn’t fit their agenda the supposedly peace loving Pro Palestine activists, who constantly talk about human rights, can’t bring themselves to see the removal as the IR regime as a good thing. Just like none of them have come out to criticise HAMAS or the murder of thousands of Iranians over the past two months. Trump isn’t a good man, but I celebrate today with the Iranian people and hope they get the freedom and rights they so deserve.

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Well I don’t disagree with you there, but unfortunately they do.

Trump has stopped Iran, he stopped them last year when they were close to fully enriching uranium and then they refused to stop carrying on. That coupled with murdering tens of thousands of protesters over the last few weeks, Trump did what needed to be done. Not to mention all the terrorism they funded abroad. The world is a safer, better place without people like Khomeini in it.

Tell me more about these nuclear weapons Iran allegedly had, but somehow never used, and doesn't have any more thanks to DJT please.

FWIW, the fact Khamenei is dead is neither here nor there. For a start, he was elderly and in poor health and likely would have keeled over in short order in any case, and all that will happen now is the regime will appoint a successor, quite possibly someone who is even more backward, more of an ideologue, and even more hellbent on repressing dissent, they'll likely murder a whole load more Iranians, and the entire place could well descend into a similar sort of all-comers, no-holds-barred ethnic civil war we've witnessed in other parts of the ME the US has tried to bomb into Democracy.

Great job DJT, what are you gonna do for an encore? (apart from hurl insults at Hollywood actors on X, like the imbecilic, thin-skinned, petulant manbaby you are)

100% @dancingredshoes

I've been seeing social media posts where women living in Iran have been talking about the regime under which they are forced to live ..they are not happy to put it mildly..some of the things they are saying are horrific
They want to be free ..they were happy this leader is dead..
But I don't know if starting a war is the right way to get them their freedom, because another fanatical leader could just take the last ones place

I think what happens in the near future will depend a lot on how history is written about the current events. The death of the Ayatollah is a huge positive for the people of Iran but what happens next.

The USA have proved they are excellent at this part (removal of a tyrant) but not so great at the slow diplomatic rebuilding and regime change. Trump is no different and the actions of the last few days show diplomacy and treaty building is not his strong suit.Right now we are in the honeymoon period the hard bit starts especially as within Iran there are pro and anti government groups.

But to answer your OP extreme naivety would think that Trump cares about Iranians or Venezuelans. Past events have shown he worships at the altars of power and money not care and decency.

I see you are taking some time away from that sofa JD.

A lot has changed, actually. Political prisoners who have been released are speaking out without fear of retaliation. Students have started to organize public activities and activism, and an amnesty law has been passed. It’s true that the same people are in charge, but that is the price for stability. There is a big crack in the regime’s repressive structure and that’s visible.

It would have been impossible to remove the regime’s apparatus that has been in place for 27 years, to replace it with the oppositions leaders from one day to another.

As history from other countries show, a peaceful transition takes time and compromises. Without American intervention, it would not have been possible. Obviously, we would have preferred a quick regime change, but many people are optimistic that change will come as the opposition is active and preparing for that.

Its great. Now it is politically acceptable to kidnap or kill other countries leaders. Next stop Netanyahu and Trump. 🤷‍♀️

I hope the women in Iran and the people in all the places you list get what one woman said she wanted this morning which was ‘to breathe in a free Iran’.

This is more about those people for me.

Absolutely. Fuck international law. Fuck the United Nations Charter. If Donald Trump wants to kidnap and/or kill people on the sovereign territory of other nations then he should definitely be allowed to just do that as and when he feels like it for whatever reason he likes.

@Gymbunny4at least they have some hope… there is hope! Before there wasn’t! The irony also, that westerners seem to someone defend the IR a country that gets it citizens to chant ‘death to the west’ - that’s you and me! I used to be left leaning but I can’t behind this bat shit crazy idea that they spend all their time defending regimes that would not give a second thought to killing and oppressing us all. Insanity!

I hope this leads to better lives especially for Iranian women but I suspect his motives -oil?- and he's left a vacuum. I'm guessing he hasn't got a long term plan for the country which is likely to be problematic. He's hardly a fan of free speech, women's rights etc. I'm uneasy rather than jubilant.

The Iranian people are very pleased that the US and Israel implemented attacks on Iran

Some of them are, certainly, then there are all the other ones, themselves a sizable proportion of the overall population, who are entirely supportive of the regime and whose views have simply been further entrenched by these events.

Trump is a fool who genuinely seems to think you can bomb religious ideologues into submission, and simply can not grasp that they'll sooner die than submit, and there's a fair few of them. The BBC pieces toward the tail-end of last week opining that Trump could not comprehend why Iran didn't just roll over and submit sums him up. He has absolutely no plan, and no idea what he's doing beyond attempting to soothe his own ego by demonstrating what a big, hard, but not at all warmongering man he is.

Yes, I'm sure the reaction if some foreign power bombed the Oval Office and blew the MAGA leadership 10 miles high would simply be shrugs and and acceptance they were within their rights to pre-empt US military action.

Not.

It's 'good' to drop a bomb on a girls school, killing 40 children, then claim it's for 'improving women's rights in Iran?????!' all done by a child rapist lets not forget.

I think Trump has done some good things. He has addressed head on epidemic of wokeness, especially in captured academic institutions where Jews had become scared to study (I am Jewish, though not religious). He has also closed a porous border and tried to deal with an influx of drugs.

But, at what cost?!

He is boorish, demeaning the dignity of the office, dishonest and a grifter. He has also tried to destroy the democratic process.

Time will tell whether it was worth it (I doubt it) or whether this is like animal farm, with the pigs actually worse than the humans (and Trump is definitely a pig!)

Also, all these moral Marty’s on here, if they lived under a regime that was oppressing and killing their women, family and children they’d be pleading for some other country to break they law to free them! Not morally right, no! But easy to be moral when you live in a western democracy

@XDownwiththissortofthingX ,

I think the targeting of the leadership was left to Israel.

Regardless of how bad they are, it is a disgraceful tactic.

Iran would still have nuclear weapons

In the same way that Iraq had WMD, you mean?