Ayatollah reported killed - not confirmed

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Surely this can only be a good thing if that tyrant is no more. However hopefully it won't lead to months/years of fighting and bloodshed

That is so true.

That’s great. So what does a good outcome look like for the Iranian people?

You have a lot to say on it not being the Iranian women’s activist I linked, so who is it you do listen to?

No one knows the outcome. Not your Iranian woman either.

There were also many experts giving opinions on Venezuela, I found many were just bias and Venezuelans were gaslighted.

If you want to make a case for someone else, the regime for example, go for it.

Can you point out where I did this? Highlighting that there are different views in Iran on this is not suggesting I support the regime. Pointing out that this is not as clear cut as you are making out is not supporting the regime.
Stop trying to accuse posters of supporting a murderous regime because they are highlighting that there are many Iranians that support it and are mourning their leaders death and not all dancing on the streets as you are suggesting, which is misleading and denying the reality of a very complex volatile situation

’Not your Iranian woman’ I’d love you to be this dismissive directly to her.

Any takers on which voice you think is better than hers?

It's possible to hold more than one thought in your head at a time - hatred of the Iranian regime, concern about what will happen next and suspicion of Trump's real motives (distraction and oil rather than giving a shit about the people of Iran).

Exactly people seem unable to comprehend this. What posters on here do and don't support is irrelevant I would be delighted to see the regime topple and freedom for the Iranian people but denying and ignoring that there are a sizeable number of people in Iran that would not support this is dangerous

I think she knows and doesn’t need me to point that out. You seem very simplistic.

I’m sure she doesn’t need any of your emojis and denigration at all.

Another Iranian woman on the radio, Rana on waking her children to the news ‘I hope to breathe in a free Iran soon. When it comes.’ I hope so for her too.

Little or no justification in international law, is what I said. And this is correct. "The attack on Iran is a clear violation of the UN charter, in any absence of any credible, imminent Iranian threat to the US." (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/28/trump-unprovoked-attack-on-iran-has-no-mandate-and-no-clear-objective ). He also appears to have violated US law, since Congressional authorisation is required to start a war.

I'm guessing that the people who think this war is ok are the same people who revelled in the attack on the Soham murderer in prison the other day. Even when people are wicked, we require the rule of law to keep ourselves safe. Think what has happened in Iraq, Libya, etc over the years: Western leaders using moral condemnation as the excuse to meddle in a foreign country, with no real commitment, capacity or plan to ensure that regime change leads to improvement as opposed to prolonged instability, violence, decay and suffering, the collapse of ordinary life for millions of people.

We all hope so. Thats not what we are discussing here.

I don’t know who you prefer to listen to as you haven’t answered with that but Iranian women are who I’m discussing.

And why shouldn’t they be at the centre of this? They have suffered horrifically and hopefully can be free from that.

And remember they have not just killed a leader, but a religious leader.

You seem very simplistic
Agree

I don’t think you are understanding what I am writing so pointless responding to you.

Your post isn’t surprising but I know people react badly to the link below. A couple of you anyway, for whatever reason.

“Ordinary life”? Are you talking about the Iranians living under a brutal regime?

That’s great. I’ll link to Iranian women speaking up and prioritise their voices and you can scroll on by.

You are just making up things up about posters and how they view things so please stop. I have been clear that I do not support the regime. You accused me of this already and I asked you to point out where I've done that which you haven't responded to.

@EasternStandard

Unfortunately, it isn’t as straightforward as this. This evil man was not a lone dictator whose killing will stop the oppression. He was a head of a very strong regime and had put plans in place in the event of him being killed. There will be others, as evil as him, who will take over.
Sadly, there are also many ordinary Iranians who mourn his death and to them he is now a martyr. They have been brainwashed for decades. If you are following the news, you must have seen women crying as well as men. These people are very angry and hate the US, Israel and generally the West. I think we will see raise of terrorist attacks around the world.
Due to the decades of oppression Iran does not have strong organised opposition with a leader who could now push back and take over.
We have all seen what has happened in Afghanistan. As soon as Americans left, women lost all the rights they had gained during their presence.

There will be probably be a few positive years and then after a while, growing resentment against what will be seen as an American/Israeli regime or supported regime will swell up, another Arabic uprising and then the whole thing will be repeated as per the 80s. Round and round it will go.

I’m puzzled by the line that the regime enjoys support by a substantial block of Iranians. We can assume that Iranians know that the leadership has made them poor, that religious police oppress women and others, that public killings happen day in day out (usually by hangings on cranes) to subdue the population, that mass killings happen when opposition breaks out, that Iran is a pariah state, that Iran is distrusted - hated even - by its neighbours. And so on.

So saying that plenty of Iranians support the regime is really saying that plenty of Iranians are bloodthirsty loons who would do anything for an Islamic Iran. That doesn’t seem a very ‘supportive’ opinion to hold about the Iranian people.

There will of course be some Iranians who back the regime because they’re part of it. They fear loss and retribution. That’s true in all police and tyrannical states.

What seems much, much more likely is that the great mass of Iranians despise the society they’re trapped in but are not yet showing it publicly in big numbers after the end of Khamenei because they fear being beaten, tortured and shot. Similarly they fear for their families.

There has to be a tipping point. Let’s hope it comes soon.

Has America declared war on Iran?
I must have missed that.

American has militarily supported Israel on attacking military sites and the hard line Mulsim men who control Iran -and who support & finance much of the worlds terrorists.
Neither of them have declared war.

If you are going to be pedantic at least get your facts straight.

The UN is a waste of time. Costs a fortune, achieves nothing anymore.
Just a load of waffle.
47 years of talking and negotiating with Iran hasn’t worked because you cannot negotiate with religious fucking nutters who worship a peadophile , hate Jews and have zero respect for women and girls.
My dog is easier to negotiate with.

And, for what it’s worth, yes I hope Huntley dies .
The parents of Holly & Jessica deserve closure. I also feel for his mother too who has been in an utterly unenviable position for the last 20+ years. This will bring closure for her too.
Everyone knows that Paedophiles and child killers have a rough time in jail - dont want to get twatted with an iron bar? Don’t kill kids. FAFO.

Iran has been a direct threat to the U.K. with 20 attacks foiled

im glad we didn’t say in the 30’s “best not attack Germany in case we kill innocent Germans”