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War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151

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Spandauer · 10/12/2025 21:07

Don Snoreleone trying to stay awake long enough to bring all his racist dreams to fruition. So when can we bring about his personal "civilisational erasure”?

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War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151
War (crimes) and Peace (prizes) - Trump Thread #151
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JoshLymanSwagger · 03/01/2026 18:02

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 03/01/2026 18:00

The Wurzels, surely?
The cider will 'oil' things along..

It'll certainly provide fuel for the Combine Harvesters out in the Mid West.
😁

GoodBrew · 03/01/2026 18:08

Could this be cause for yet another impeachment? Waging war without consulting congress, surely they must respond to his disregard for the process?

Of course impeachment means nothing anymore and he's collecting them like trophies, but what else can they do?

Spandauer · 03/01/2026 18:10

GoodBrew · 03/01/2026 18:08

Could this be cause for yet another impeachment? Waging war without consulting congress, surely they must respond to his disregard for the process?

Of course impeachment means nothing anymore and he's collecting them like trophies, but what else can they do?

Apparently some in Congress are 'concerned'. 🙄

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SerendipityJane · 03/01/2026 18:15

Spandauer · 03/01/2026 18:10

Apparently some in Congress are 'concerned'. 🙄

Too late now.

AcrossthePond55 · 03/01/2026 18:34

@GoodBrew

As long as there's a GOP majority in Congress, not a snowball's chance in hell.

Now, if there's a Blue Wave in November, all bets are off. But just gaining the majority won't be enough. Whereas it just requires a simple majority to impeach in the House, it requires a 2/3 majority (67 if all members present) in the Senate to remove from office. There are currently 45 Dems + 2 Independents who caucus with the Dems so we'll assume 47 that would vote 'yea'. The midterms would have to gain us 20 seats. That's absolutely unheard of. As it stands the pundits are opining that there are only 10 GOP seats that may be subject to flipping.

Bottom line, I think that if there is absolutely no chance of Scrotus being removed from office by the Senate, the House will consider a 3rd impeachment as an exercise in futility. They'll condemn, reproach, & censure but won't devote the time and expense of an impeachment trial. I can't say I blame them. That time (assuming we get a majority in the House and/or Senate) will be better spent in trying to legislatively undo some of the damage he's already done.

It's interesting to note that the reason Nixon resigned was because enough Congress members of his own party would have voted to impeach and remove him from office. These days, that just wouldn't happen. Not even if he 'shot someone on 5th Avenue'.

Talkinpeace · 03/01/2026 18:40

A disconnected family member got very rich in the Venezuelan oil industry before nationalisation.

The USA has never forgiven the locals for turning off that money stream.

logicisall · 03/01/2026 19:18

Re US seizing control of Venezuela, the Opposition is going to be experiencing a Leopards ate my Face moment right about now.

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/01/2026 19:30

DuncinToffee · 03/01/2026 17:32

Trump says Machado doesn’t have the respect of Venezuela so can’t be leader. So much for all her Trump ass-kissing.

There are some people on the other thread that are going to be a bit surprised by that bit.

BruceAndNosh · 03/01/2026 19:31

I blame the Supreme Court.
They made it clear that the President could not be guilty of any crime.
Which Trump is pushing to the max.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 03/01/2026 19:37

@BruceAndNosh - when you say: “They made it clear that the President could not be guilty of any crime” - they were only talking about this particular president, right? (Sorry for the side-tracking, I’m just distracting myself from the horror that is actually happening as I agree with all the worst case scenarios currently being posted on this thread.)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/01/2026 19:50

No crime committed by a sitting president is a crime so long as it is to do with him doing his job.

I don't think it lets him off any crime committed while he isn't president, and I don't think it is meant to let him off any crime that has nothing to do with his job.

I am waiting for someone to go to court to establish how accepting bribes isn't really part of the president's job.

Efacsen · 03/01/2026 20:10

Confused

Delcy Rodriguez VP is on Venezuelan TV atm and appears to have switched sides - again -back to supporting Maduro. Thought Trump was having her sworn in as President

''She has condemned the capture of Nicolás Maduro by the US, calling it an “unprecedented military aggression”, and demanded the “immediate release” of the dictator and his wife, Cilia Flores''

LlttledrummergirI · 03/01/2026 20:27

Trump lies, we all know this, so who the fuck knows the truth of any of it.
Has Rodriguez played him by going along with the plan so far?

logicisall · 04/01/2026 00:00

I'm waiting to hear what US oil companies have to say about going back into Venezuela, and what security guarantees the Trump administration will offer American companies and workers, because they will absolutely need it when the bombings and kidnappings start.

For 2007 expropriation Exxon(Mobil) got $1B (awarded $1.6B at arbitration) and ConocoPhillips have already received $5-6B (awarded $8.7B). If the extra billions plus interest owing is paid from the sale of oil, what happens afterwards?
Who decides which creditors get paid first?
How is the income from oil to be prioritised and used to actually help the country and people of Venezuela?

More importantly... Will Trump crown himself King of Venezuela next?

Lalgarh · 04/01/2026 00:04

Is that Tupac being sampled

https://nitter.net/WhiteHouse/status/2007557671705293009#m

namechangedtemporarily123 · 04/01/2026 00:13

All those Venezuelans living in America cheering this on. I give it 6 months until they’re all sent back to Venezuela as it’s now ‘safe’.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/01/2026 00:33

More importantly... Will Trump crown himself King of Venezuela next?

Hopefully if he does he'll take up residence there and leave us alone.

logicisall · 04/01/2026 09:02

OMG it's getting worse. The UK gov't "won't judge US actions."

logicisall · 04/01/2026 09:06

Priti Patel is virtually gloating about Trump's actions on Sky News.

BustingBaoBun · 04/01/2026 09:09

logicisall · 04/01/2026 09:06

Priti Patel is virtually gloating about Trump's actions on Sky News.

I had thankfully forgotten how nauseating she was, now I have been reminded

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 04/01/2026 10:53

WTAF is wrong with Starmer? Reform deserve to get in if that’s all the leadership he can give to the country.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 04/01/2026 10:57

I think WTAF is wrong with Starmer is that he thinks his job is trying to be a diplomatic bridge between Europe and Trumpleville. Whereas we all know the time has long passed come for dumping Trump in the sea.

DuncinToffee · 04/01/2026 10:59

What else do you think he could have said?

The UK's statement is aligned with other European countries, it doesn't back Trump's attacks, it rebukes it through its reference to international law.

It's safe

I know people (me included)would like Starmer to tell Trump to fuck off but that just is not realistic. The UK isn't in a position to do so.

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