Labour isn't working - Thread 13

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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However, yet more diatribe as he now refuses to accept the vote decision! I would love to see Oxford University send him down for bringing it into disreute. But he's one of their DEI projects, so I doubt it.

That's socialists for you 🙄

This is interesting - Waitrose local to the family doing a lovely thing here, but apparently now a legal minefield to part pay and part volunteer:

Waitrose axed autistic volunteer after request for paid work

www.thetimes.com/article/e9702e4f-3619-4406-8c7c-2110960c9f85?shareToken=f6f8c6b7629c985ae8445aaa4a700feb

Yeah, her rebuke was pretty mild but it was effective in making her point.

Deranged Sultana suggested everyone arriving from Israel to support this football club should be arrested for war crimes 🙄

We all know that the 'future savings' never come...

I wonder how generous the proposed redundancy payments are?

Nandy did a bang up job, I find her stance on womens rights awful but she did excellent work here. I throughly enjoyed it.

I would take him on in a heartbeat.

We’re going to need yet another new thread imminently!

This is where Labour needed to be before the benefits bill, with a proper system giving employers leeway to take chances on people. As it is, that local Waitrose mgr etc has clearly gone out on a limb and should be applauded.

The UK government borrowed £20.2bn in September, the highest for the month for five years, underlining chancellor Rachel Reeves’ challenges as she prepares for a tough November Budget.

The shortfall between government income and spending was just above the £20.1bn forecast by the Office for Budget Responsibility, the fiscal watchdog, but less than the £20.8bn analysts had expected in the run-up to the release.

It brings borrowing over the first half of the financial year to £99.8bn, £11.5bn more than in the same six-month period of 2024 and the second-highest total since monthly records began in 1993. The six-month figure was only topped by the pandemic-era total for April to September 2020. It hit such a high despite a downward revision of £4.2bn to previous borrowing estimates for the first five months of the period.

New thread 😎✨️✨️✨️ 🧵🧵🧵 ✨️✨️✨️

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So, we are now borrowing over £180bn a year and spending £110bn a year on debt repayments, because 53.3% of all UK households are taking more in benefits/services than they contribute in all taxes (in 1977 it was 37%).

The current trajectory takes it to 60% by ~2045 and 70% by ~2080. The percentage of retired households receiving more in benefits and services than contributing in all taxes is 90.1% (93.5% in 1977), and 45.8% of non-retired households (29.5% in 1977).

We have 9.4m of working age not in employment and ‘economically inactive’. We have 9.9 million working age who receive some form of DWP benefit. Just one secondary school place (£7.5k) takes the income tax of two £30k earners to cover the cost.

We have a crooked system where someone on £150k pays FIFTEEN TIMES more income tax than someone earning £30k. And is generally despised for it; even though they are paying for the benefits and welfare of dozens of people.

UTTER INSANITY.

It's crazy, isn't it? What a dreadful financial landscape.

When you list is out like that 🤯

Love your posts 💙

It really is. And people keep demanding this trajectory is increased.

Atrocious, and unsustainable…

He's a prime example of why DEI is so flawed.

IIRC correctly, his grades were below those needed for Oxford entry, but DEI "rools okay". Without it, this repugnant individual would probably have been pursuing his (no doubt flawed) political aspirations at one of the newer universities, if any.

Bang on. He got 1A and 2B's. Which would not have got him on the grounds of Oxford, let alone in the building had he not been a DEI shoo in.

On LBC there are constant ads for ‘pension credit’ which then offers council tax discounts etc. Am attempt to create an even greater number of dependent client voters for Labour.

The whole 'making up for 14 years of Conservative austerity' is really starting to piss me off. Public spending increased during their government: as a percentage of GDP, compared against pre-austerity spending. There's nothing to 'make up'.

‘Deranged Sultana’

Very very childish but that did just make me chuckle.. How many deranged sultanas does it take to ruin a child’s lunch box, etc.

Childish. Very childish.

🤣

I was just wondering the same. Are the payments discretionary, contractual or statutory?

That is nothing new. There were advertising campaigns for Pension Credit under the Tories too. Hundreds of thousands of pensioners don't claim it, even though they would qualify and are living in poverty as a result of not claiming it. It is really important to get the message out there.

www.gov.uk/government/news/eligible-pensioners-urged-to-apply-for-pension-credit-in-new-campaign

Labour doesn't do responsibility. How much longer do we have to endure this "dog ate my homework mentality"? It started with Reeves and the supposed financial black hole left by the Conservatives and has never stopped.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/b0f9dc1091a0be7b