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Labour isn't working - Thread 13

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TheNuthatch · 14/10/2025 22:45

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 18:47

Nolletimiere · 20/10/2025 18:43

Yay!

Met to end all non-crime hate investigations after Graham Linehan case dropped

Announcement that officers ‘should not be policing toxic culture war debates’ follows no further action decision against Father Ted writer

Oh good. Some good old sensible news. Excellent .

Catatemyhomework · 20/10/2025 18:47

EmeraldRoulette · 20/10/2025 17:53

That's strange. I wonder why that is.

Is the 20 hours guaranteed or is she on a zero hours and she keeps getting given 20?

I don't know to be honest, but I believe it's cheaper for the employers NI having staff at 20 hours rather than 40. I guess there may be other factors, such as holiday accrual, sick pay, etc making it cheaper to employ part time staff.

EasternStandard · 20/10/2025 18:51

Nolletimiere · 20/10/2025 18:43

Yay!

Met to end all non-crime hate investigations after Graham Linehan case dropped

Announcement that officers ‘should not be policing toxic culture war debates’ follows no further action decision against Father Ted writer

I’m afraid it’s not as good as it sounds. NCHI will still be recorded but the Met won’t waste time investigating. I think his case still goes ahead as it’s not for a NCHI

It’s a bit of a head spin but just reading FWR thread.

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AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 18:54

I just listened to the rest is money podcast. I didn’t catch the name of the woman initially, so only looked it up after I stopped driving. Because she’d annoyed me so much. Ffs she is the new head of the IFS. We are so fcking doomed, anyone with any decent level of wealth, but not the super wealthy. They’ll be ok they always are. It’s us fcking mugs who’ll pay everything. And the fraudulent benefits scrounging obesity cretins will continue to be encouraged. The big corps will continue to not pay proper taxes. And we’ll have to pay more to attempt to fund the gaps. Which it won’t of course. Urgh. Might go back to not being on MN!!

Nolletimiere · 20/10/2025 18:54

EasternStandard · 20/10/2025 18:51

I’m afraid it’s not as good as it sounds. NCHI will still be recorded but the Met won’t waste time investigating. I think his case still goes ahead as it’s not for a NCHI

It’s a bit of a head spin but just reading FWR thread.

Ah shit, thanks.

I thought a bout of common sense may have broken out…

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 18:55

EasternStandard · 20/10/2025 18:51

I’m afraid it’s not as good as it sounds. NCHI will still be recorded but the Met won’t waste time investigating. I think his case still goes ahead as it’s not for a NCHI

It’s a bit of a head spin but just reading FWR thread.

Oh. Should’ve known.

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 18:56

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 18:54

I just listened to the rest is money podcast. I didn’t catch the name of the woman initially, so only looked it up after I stopped driving. Because she’d annoyed me so much. Ffs she is the new head of the IFS. We are so fcking doomed, anyone with any decent level of wealth, but not the super wealthy. They’ll be ok they always are. It’s us fcking mugs who’ll pay everything. And the fraudulent benefits scrounging obesity cretins will continue to be encouraged. The big corps will continue to not pay proper taxes. And we’ll have to pay more to attempt to fund the gaps. Which it won’t of course. Urgh. Might go back to not being on MN!!

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Yep and obviously MPs will be fine too.
When they say "wealthy" and "broadest shoulders" they always mean MC/middle earners. Every fucking time

Nolletimiere · 20/10/2025 18:56

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 18:55

Oh. Should’ve known.

I must learn to curb my enthusiasm….🤐

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 18:57

@AbsentosaurusRex when she suggested we do away with zero vat rated products and increase money transfers to poorer families instead my head nearly exploded….

or doubling council tax on the higher tax bands…

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 18:58

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 18:57

@AbsentosaurusRex when she suggested we do away with zero vat rated products and increase money transfers to poorer families instead my head nearly exploded….

or doubling council tax on the higher tax bands…

Wtaf????

Nolletimiere · 20/10/2025 18:59

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 18:57

@AbsentosaurusRex when she suggested we do away with zero vat rated products and increase money transfers to poorer families instead my head nearly exploded….

or doubling council tax on the higher tax bands…

FFS, really.

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 18:59

Nolletimiere · 20/10/2025 18:56

I must learn to curb my enthusiasm….🤐

In retrospect I can’t believe we were that naive! Tsk, as if reasonable decisions are ever made these days. Well apart from the old SC confirmation that yes yes, women are in fact biological females only. Thank goodness that age old fact known since time began was confirmed. It’s the least we can hope for.

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 19:00

Yes, she says it’s unfair that wealthier people get to buy zero rated products and it’s overly complex so whack vat on everything and subsidise people who need it…but then she did admit it was very unlikely to happen!

let’s hope RR wasn’t listening to that 😂

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 19:02

I can only wonder if Helen Miller looking to make publicity with some provocative headlines…

Nolletimiere · 20/10/2025 19:02

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 18:59

In retrospect I can’t believe we were that naive! Tsk, as if reasonable decisions are ever made these days. Well apart from the old SC confirmation that yes yes, women are in fact biological females only. Thank goodness that age old fact known since time began was confirmed. It’s the least we can hope for.

100%.

I just hope that Linehan goes to town on the Met now.

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 19:02

Basically: drop out of school, never get a job, live off benefits and you'll be fine cos Labour will tax every other fucker stupid just to look after you!
What you must never do is to try to make something of yourself and your family ie dont aspire. That's heresy and must be punished.

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 19:02

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 18:57

@AbsentosaurusRex when she suggested we do away with zero vat rated products and increase money transfers to poorer families instead my head nearly exploded….

or doubling council tax on the higher tax bands…

I know. I thought who tf is this person, and reasoned she must be some Labour Party infected drone. But. Sadly not.

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 19:02

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 19:00

Yes, she says it’s unfair that wealthier people get to buy zero rated products and it’s overly complex so whack vat on everything and subsidise people who need it…but then she did admit it was very unlikely to happen!

let’s hope RR wasn’t listening to that 😂

They are fucking batshit

EasternStandard · 20/10/2025 19:04

This is the FSU statement. They have done well to move the dial but I read this to say a NCHI will still be recorded which is the bad part. They just don’t spend time on it!

Glinner is still going to court for the other thing if FWR are right which they usually are

From Free Speech Union

Great news that the @metpoliceuk will no longer investigate non-crime hate incidents -- a direct result of our successful campaign to get the Met to drop its investigation of @glinner, which it has now done.
This is a tremendous victory, but the war is not yet over. We now have to make sure all the other police forces in the UK follow in the Met's footsteps and they all now stop recording NCHIs, including the Met, in a way that means they can show up in enhanced DBS checks and prevent you from getting a job as a teacher or a carer. No one should be prevented from getting a job because they've committed a 'non-crime'.

Nevertheless, this is an important step on the road to scrapping NCHIs altogether, something our director, Lord Young of Acton, called for in the House of Lords last Thursday. He has proposed an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill, co-sponsored by Lord Hogan-Howe, a former Metropolitan Police Commissioner, to abolish NCHIs.
x.com/SpeechUnion/status/1980319078129500286?t=Gpxo12f4C6431PkaiEfWyw&s=19

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 19:05

Paul Johnson often used to make the point about the tax burden already falling heavily on those broad shoulders - no sign of that here. The context was ‘we need huge tax rises’ I suppose…

the other rest is money with Reed said most AI experts think we’re 4-5 years away from mass white collar unemployment, and we already have 9m economically inactive and only 710k vacancies…

it was not an uplifting afternoon!

EasternStandard · 20/10/2025 19:06

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 19:02

Basically: drop out of school, never get a job, live off benefits and you'll be fine cos Labour will tax every other fucker stupid just to look after you!
What you must never do is to try to make something of yourself and your family ie dont aspire. That's heresy and must be punished.

It really is Starmer’s Labour isn’t it.

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 19:07

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 19:02

They are fucking batshit

She also talked about reducing the tax free lump sum we can claim from private pensions. Because it’s not fair wealthy people have such big sums available.

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 19:07

Rivalled · 20/10/2025 19:05

Paul Johnson often used to make the point about the tax burden already falling heavily on those broad shoulders - no sign of that here. The context was ‘we need huge tax rises’ I suppose…

the other rest is money with Reed said most AI experts think we’re 4-5 years away from mass white collar unemployment, and we already have 9m economically inactive and only 710k vacancies…

it was not an uplifting afternoon!

It terrifies me for DDs future tbh. How do they survive?

twistyizzy · 20/10/2025 19:09

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 19:07

She also talked about reducing the tax free lump sum we can claim from private pensions. Because it’s not fair wealthy people have such big sums available.

Yeah it's not fair that they have saved that money ie saved their own fucking money that they've earned.

What is wrong with these people?

"It's not fair".....it's playground mentality and they haven't progressed past that stage

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 19:09

Do they not get that taxpayers need to see benefits back to themselves, too? I'd begrudge tax a lot less if I had pothole-free roads and a visible police force keeping antisocial behaviour at bay, for instance. But no, it's like the fucking Purge out there and our taxes get to pay for the upkeep of the very people who make life a misery for the rest of us.

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