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Labour isn't working - Thread 13

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TheNuthatch · 14/10/2025 22:45

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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upseedaisee · 20/10/2025 21:29

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 20/10/2025 21:19

I really enjoyed Boston Legal on All4.

It's very American, but William Shatner, James Spader and Candice Bergen are wonderful.

One of my favourites. I watch and rewatch and still laugh, or cry. There are some very pignant moments. Sleepover anyone?😁

EmeraldRoulette · 20/10/2025 21:33

I always mean to watch Boston Legal but I haven't got round to it. I'm re-watching The Big Bang Theory. I came to it very late so I've only seen it once.

I just wish Bernadette didn't have that annoying voice - which the actress used when she did didn't realise she'd have a long-standing part and she thought it would be funny. It's a shame they couldn't gradually scale it back to her normal voice, which is lovely!

CaveMum · 20/10/2025 21:34

TheNuthatch · 20/10/2025 21:21

I love Nick!
No haven't watched any of the other stuff. I've never watched traitors before so its all new to me. I might watch the old series one day, if I can stay awake.

Definitely watch or listen to Uncloaked afterwards each show - they reveal to the murdered/banished Faithful who the real Traitors are and it’s hilarious to see them react to how wrong/right they were!

TRIE is just extra Traitor fodder, but really interesting to hear them talk about the way the production crew will be handling the events.

Definitely catch up on the older series, Series 2 is my personal favourite but they are all good. If you’ve not heard binge them all you’ll be ready for Series 4 in January!

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 21:40

TheNuthatch · 20/10/2025 20:34

I'm assuming neither you or your dh are claiming fraudulently? That's what the pp was referring to. I didn't read that as an attack on those in genuine need? My dd also relies on PIP and I wasn't offended by that post.

Yes exactly @TheNuthatch . I said ‘fraudulent’ referring to fraudulent claimants. Of which there are many @PandoraSocks , too many.

TheNuthatch · 20/10/2025 21:42

CaveMum · 20/10/2025 21:34

Definitely watch or listen to Uncloaked afterwards each show - they reveal to the murdered/banished Faithful who the real Traitors are and it’s hilarious to see them react to how wrong/right they were!

TRIE is just extra Traitor fodder, but really interesting to hear them talk about the way the production crew will be handling the events.

Definitely catch up on the older series, Series 2 is my personal favourite but they are all good. If you’ve not heard binge them all you’ll be ready for Series 4 in January!

OK thanks @CaveMum. I'll have a look. I keep watching it a few days after it's aired so I didn't know about uncloaked. I'm time poor atm with everything going on at work.
I think I might prefer the other series with normal people rather than celebs. Ross is really getting on my wick now. I was gutted that Paloma was murdered so early, I loved her 😢.

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CaveMum · 20/10/2025 21:52

TheNuthatch · 20/10/2025 21:42

OK thanks @CaveMum. I'll have a look. I keep watching it a few days after it's aired so I didn't know about uncloaked. I'm time poor atm with everything going on at work.
I think I might prefer the other series with normal people rather than celebs. Ross is really getting on my wick now. I was gutted that Paloma was murdered so early, I loved her 😢.

Uncloaked is also available as a podcast, so if you can’t watch on BBC2 you can pop some headphones on and get a fix that way.

I agree I don’t know how they’ve not cottoned on to JR so far, but I think Joe M has got him marked, he’s just biding his time.

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 22:07

@PandoraSocks Anyone decent has zero problem with paying taxes to help those who need support, whatever that support / benefit - may be. That’s a baseline. Those who need it should get it.

Being angry and annoyed with fraudulent benefit claimants is not the same thing. It’s not even a nuanced difference. So I don’t see why it’s hard to understand.

I think (I hope) that anyone complaining about benefit spongers (or fraudulent claimants) is upset about paying taxes for lazy dossers to live off .

However this is MN. Twas ever thus that people misinterpret posts / don’t read properly, willfully or not. Who knows 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

AbsentosaurusRex · 20/10/2025 22:10

Wrt tv - we’ve just started watching ‘Rizzoli and Isles’, a detective series on Amazon. It’s harmless fun, a newer version of Cagney & Lacey, mixed with Death in Paradise. We like it anyway. I believe it’s about 10-15yrs old itself but still, I’d never heard of it until a couple of weeks ago!

justasking111 · 20/10/2025 22:40

It's a bit like the 2nd world war when Hollywood made happy movies because things were so grim.

It's escapism and nostalgia we're watching.

DH is into old Western type TV films. Prime have dropped a lot of old TV shows lately I noticed.

EmeraldRoulette · 20/10/2025 22:56

@AbsentosaurusRex I used to watch that 10 or 15 years ago! Interesting that it's been picked up again. Maybe because nobody is really making those kinds of shows. Or are they and I'm not keeping up.

I think it was on quite late at night, but that was a repeat of an earlier show. I was working a lot of late nights so I think I was probably watching it about 10 or 11 with my dinner!

LittleBowSheep · 21/10/2025 01:38

justasking111 · 20/10/2025 14:23

I bloody hope so.

Genuine question. What outcome are you hoping for at the Senedd elections next year?

twistyizzy · 21/10/2025 04:53

PandoraSocks · 20/10/2025 20:38

That is fair enough. I thought it was a pretty horrible thing to say. I am allowed an opinion. There is too much benefit bashing on this site.

Woah now who are you to police a thread that you unashamedly don't agree with anyway? You keep popping up on here then going back to the other thread giggling about it etc.
F
Either engage fully or don't. At the moment you are just coming across as goady.

It's fine to bash us constantly though isn't it 🙄 as you all do on there.

Nolletimiere · 21/10/2025 05:32

twistyizzy · 21/10/2025 04:53

Woah now who are you to police a thread that you unashamedly don't agree with anyway? You keep popping up on here then going back to the other thread giggling about it etc.
F
Either engage fully or don't. At the moment you are just coming across as goady.

It's fine to bash us constantly though isn't it 🙄 as you all do on there.

Edited

On the face of it, the PP’s posts do appear with the intention to goad.

strawberrybubblegum · 21/10/2025 05:57

The 'gentleman's agreement' to leave each other's threads alone is a good one. I've been riled into commenting on theirs once - when I was upset about the unpleasant leftie reactions to the Kirk assassination, and there was a contemptible one on there - but won't again.

My preference would be for us all to stay off their thread and ignore any incursions into ours.

twistyizzy · 21/10/2025 06:33

strawberrybubblegum · 21/10/2025 05:57

The 'gentleman's agreement' to leave each other's threads alone is a good one. I've been riled into commenting on theirs once - when I was upset about the unpleasant leftie reactions to the Kirk assassination, and there was a contemptible one on there - but won't again.

My preference would be for us all to stay off their thread and ignore any incursions into ours.

Edited

Which I was happy with until we started getting regular incursions here. They want their space + our space now

Nolletimiere · 21/10/2025 06:44

Rachel Reeves is locked in a battle with Wes Streeting over the abolition of NHS England ahead of her autumn Budget.

The Chancellor is resisting demands from Health Secretary Mr Streeting to use more than £1bn from the Treasury’s reserve to fund redundancy payments when the agency is scrapped.

Government sources told The Telegraph the Department of Health had asked for extra funding to allow it to fulfil Sir Keir Starmer’s promise to axe NHS England within two years.

The Prime Minister announced in March that the NHS would be brought back into “democratic control” by abolishing the arms-length body that sits between the department and NHS trusts.

However, Mr Streeting has racked up a potential bill of a reported £1.3bn in redundancy payments as part of the reforms. The Treasury has declined his request for a loan to pay off staff, which could then be repaid by the Department of Health from future savings.

upseedaisee · 21/10/2025 07:28

twistyizzy · 21/10/2025 06:33

Which I was happy with until we started getting regular incursions here. They want their space + our space now

Sadly, twas ever thus. Socialists don't accept an alternative opinion, only theirs matters.

Nolletimiere · 21/10/2025 07:42

upseedaisee · 21/10/2025 07:28

Sadly, twas ever thus. Socialists don't accept an alternative opinion, only theirs matters.

They’ve evidently run out of crap to talk about, hence the Bad Actor popping up on here.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/10/2025 07:42

strawberrybubblegum · 21/10/2025 05:57

The 'gentleman's agreement' to leave each other's threads alone is a good one. I've been riled into commenting on theirs once - when I was upset about the unpleasant leftie reactions to the Kirk assassination, and there was a contemptible one on there - but won't again.

My preference would be for us all to stay off their thread and ignore any incursions into ours.

Edited

I did post there in the past. I can even claim the inspiration for a few of their earlier thread titles.

I don't do that now, but what I think they are confused about is when they lurk here and also follow posters on other threads and then cannot distinguish what's been said where.

I'm tired with the squirelly goading visitor's posts though.

upseedaisee · 21/10/2025 07:48

Well, it looks like the snivelling toad President Elect of Oxford Union has had a life lesson! Couldn't happen to a more worthy candidate.
Any political ambitions he may have had are now in tatters. You don't recover from something like this.

George Abaraonye REMOVED as Oxford Union president-elect after members vote him out in landslide

George Abaraonye REMOVED as Oxford Union president-elect after members vote him out in landslide

The no-confidence vote was tabled following the president-elect's celebration of Charlie Kirk's death

https://www.gbnews.com/news/oxford-union-george-abaraonye-removed

EasternStandard · 21/10/2025 07:56

twistyizzy · 21/10/2025 06:33

Which I was happy with until we started getting regular incursions here. They want their space + our space now

Yep no thanks to that. It took a while to set this thread up as a response to aggro elsewhere. We don’t need it to merge back.

EmpressoftheMundane · 21/10/2025 08:09

I think they are struggling to find anything to say on their thread. Nothing positive is happening. So rebutting negative comments is all they’ve got left.

SpaceRaccoon · 21/10/2025 08:34

Oh, there has been one positive! Lisa Nandy taking Iqbal Mohammed to task for antisemitism re the Maccabi debacle. Fair play to her.

Upstartled · 21/10/2025 08:36

upseedaisee · 21/10/2025 07:48

Well, it looks like the snivelling toad President Elect of Oxford Union has had a life lesson! Couldn't happen to a more worthy candidate.
Any political ambitions he may have had are now in tatters. You don't recover from something like this.

George Abaraonye REMOVED as Oxford Union president-elect after members vote him out in landslide

Good. How you can have a chair of a free speech union who is celebratory about the murder of a man for talking about his opinions - is beyond absurd.

Nolletimiere · 21/10/2025 08:36

upseedaisee · 21/10/2025 07:48

Well, it looks like the snivelling toad President Elect of Oxford Union has had a life lesson! Couldn't happen to a more worthy candidate.
Any political ambitions he may have had are now in tatters. You don't recover from something like this.

George Abaraonye REMOVED as Oxford Union president-elect after members vote him out in landslide

Triff.

This young person needs to grow up.

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