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WhysEverythingABallAche · 08/08/2024 17:21

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IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 08/08/2024 17:25

WickieRoy · 08/08/2024 15:58

I think most people just know that the terrorists aren't actually doing it "because Islam" any more than the terrorists of either stripe in NI did it "because Christianity". Faith is just the excuse, it always is, regardless of the faith chosen.

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It's a bit of a stretch to compare NI with Islamic State.

AuntieStella · 08/08/2024 17:45

Who said it’s not terror related?

Merseyside police said that they did not believe it was terror related (it's in press release of 30 July) but have also said that counter-terrorism police were involved in the investigation.

I realise that's not slam dunk "it isn't" but I do not think they would have included any statement about it not being terrorism in the press release if that were not overwhelmingly likely to be the case

Edited to add: everything else about the case (including any prosecution theories on his motivation) are indeed being withheld in line with normal procedure for all cases sub judice.

WickieRoy · 08/08/2024 18:08

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 08/08/2024 17:25

It's a bit of a stretch to compare NI with Islamic State.

Why? In particular in terms of motivation - none of it is actually related to faith.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 08/08/2024 18:21

Why? In particular in terms of motivation - none of it is actually related to faith.

Islamic State likely believe it is though. That they're the purest and most righteous. Also unlike NI their ideals are expansionist.

oakleaffy · 08/08/2024 18:21

A terrifying 'selfie' of the Austrian suspect is on Sky news posing with his weapons.

Thank goodness he and his 'friends' were apprehended in time.

oakleaffy · 08/08/2024 18:25

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 08/08/2024 18:21

Why? In particular in terms of motivation - none of it is actually related to faith.

Islamic State likely believe it is though. That they're the purest and most righteous. Also unlike NI their ideals are expansionist.

Also the Irish suffered greatly under British rule in the past -so they wanted to be free of this, and to have a United Ireland {Very very simplistically}.

oakleaffy · 08/08/2024 18:33

An ex Labour councillor has recently been arrested for saying that ''Protesters should injure fascist's throats''

That's rather inflammatory.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/labour-councillor-arrested-encouraging-murder-slit-fascists-throat/

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 08/08/2024 18:43

WickieRoy · 08/08/2024 18:08

Why? In particular in terms of motivation - none of it is actually related to faith.

Terrorist actions in NI were motivated by the political desire of either a united Ireland or Ulster remaining in the UK. The situation there is nothing like the motivation behind Islamic State.

EasternStandard · 08/08/2024 18:44

oakleaffy · 08/08/2024 18:33

An ex Labour councillor has recently been arrested for saying that ''Protesters should injure fascist's throats''

That's rather inflammatory.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/labour-councillor-arrested-encouraging-murder-slit-fascists-throat/

It really feels a mess and yes very inflammatory but also indicative of a politics which imo is a shame to have

tootyfruitypickle · 08/08/2024 20:29

Vienna is awesome right now. Big crowds singing.

HighHeelsOnCobblestones · 08/08/2024 20:35

Swifties in Vienna are singing in the streets, the first video I saw was this afternoon in daylight but looks like they’re still going https://x.com/scharlatanja/status/1821627220034564207?s=46&t=dGP1RU1ZBzqauhYfCAnk0Q

The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived has taken on a new meaning.

x.com

https://x.com/scharlatanja/status/1821627220034564207?s=46&t=dGP1RU1ZBzqauhYfCAnk0Q

tootyfruitypickle · 08/08/2024 21:01

HighHeelsOnCobblestones · 08/08/2024 20:35

Swifties in Vienna are singing in the streets, the first video I saw was this afternoon in daylight but looks like they’re still going https://x.com/scharlatanja/status/1821627220034564207?s=46&t=dGP1RU1ZBzqauhYfCAnk0Q

The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived has taken on a new meaning.

We were with them for quite a while. Incredible atmosphere.

Igotjelly · 08/08/2024 21:02

tootyfruitypickle · 08/08/2024 21:01

We were with them for quite a while. Incredible atmosphere.

I know not much of a consolation but something very special seems to have happened in Vienna.

MushMonster · 09/08/2024 06:36

That sounds lovely! I will have a search in youtube later on.
Power to the Swifties! ❤❤❤

tootyfruitypickle · 09/08/2024 08:21

Does anyone else think that the radio silence from Taylor herself means that they are trying to find a way to reschedule? I can’t understand why she wouldn’t just post a message immediately if they were just cancelled?

MushMonster · 09/08/2024 08:33

I think she will.
At least news yesterday were publishing that she wants to go back as soon as possible.

tootyfruitypickle · 09/08/2024 08:34

Omg my ticket has changed from cancelled to rescheduling !!!

MushMonster · 09/08/2024 08:38

👏👏👏

MushMonster · 09/08/2024 08:38

Show must go on!

horumforaforum · 09/08/2024 08:38

tootyfruitypickle · 09/08/2024 08:34

Omg my ticket has changed from cancelled to rescheduling !!!

Oh wow. Fingers crossed for you…

pinkhousesarebest · 11/08/2024 10:24

😮😮😮this is so wonderful!

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