Update on "riots" tonight from local news sites

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Brighton - Less than 10 anti-immigration 'protesters' and about 1,500 counter-protesters with more arriving all the time. Jazz band playing. No violence observed or reported. A couple of buses had to stop for a few minutes to get through the crowd.

Hastings likewise - a handful of anti-immigrationists, and hundreds of counter protesters, chanting "say it loud, say it clear, refugees are welcome here".

I am so so fed up of constantly being told there are Jewish people on the marches.

Genocide IS racism.

And let me also say regardless of my views on Gaza or the current Israeli government, in a million years I wouldn't attend a march and stand amongst people, whereby a proportion of them would like to see me obliterated. No fucking way.

Nor do I wish to play the game of acceptable Jew or genocidal maniac which seems to be how some people like to stereotype us.

No thanks

But those ones look really Jewish. Have you not noticed how Jewish they look when they call for the destruction of Israel?

That makes it totally fine for other people to call for the destruction of the world's only Jewish state, because those super Jewish-looking people are doing the same. No further thought necessary.

That is the definition of anti-zionism.

What land Israel has/has not has no bearing on zionism.
Should Israel exist is the question.

And it is frightening how many people say no and march with it.

You are allowed to be Jewish and not agree with every act of the Israeli government, you know.
Just like you are allowed to be Jewish and feel sympathy for Palestinians.

Admittedly most of the posters on the Middle East forum don't seem to have grasped this, but I can assure you it is true.

I have no idea what you mean.🙄

Does this man look "really Jewish" noblegiraffe ·?

https://x.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1790441926694482105

What's your point?

My point is Jews are not one homogenous group and many Jewish people in the UK are appalled at the genocide in Gaza. That takes nothing away from the fact that both anti-semitism and Islamaphobia are both dreadfully wrong.

Is he the one that @StoneofDestiny decided to link to, that I was referring to when talking about the 'really Jewish looking ones' that idiots keep wheeling out because they haven't done the slightest bit of research beyond looking at what they are wearing?

No, he isn't.

If you agree that Jews are not one homogenous group then you'd agree that trying to shout down Jews by saying that other Jews are ok with going on marches which regularly call for the destruction of Israel would be stupid.

And yet you have been repeatedly posting on this thread about how Jewish people have attended the marches not to mention repeatedly telling us that you even know some Jewish people irl.

Meanwhile on here, many of us have told you why we find constantly being told the former to be objectionable yet you ignore this

I am ignoring you from now on Comedycook .

Did you just google "Jews against genocide" and pick the first one that came up? Or do you keep a stash of them bookmarked for this kind of occasion?

I'm sure you are

Jews attended these marches are a tiny minority.
Of course Jews want peace and despise killing, but to march with hoards chanting our destruction? Never.

Everywhere I see Palestinian flags, anti-Israeli comments, river to the sea reminders. Would you like to be reminded how many millions of people hate you and want your race obliterated shoved in your face every day?
Do you have any inkling why Jews are afraid?

Councillor arrested over counter-protest remarkspublished at 16:59
16:59
Some more details on the suspended Labour councillor Ricky Jones.
Earlier in the day, videos had emerged online reportedly showing Jones telling a crowd that far-right demonstrators needed to have their throats cut.
A Labour spokesperson said: “This behaviour is completely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated."

Good @EasterIssland I hope they throw the book at him, and quickly.

You sure seem keen on equating wanting self-determination for Jewish people in their ancestral homeland with fascism. That's exactly what the "anti-racist" anti-Semites in Finchley did yesterday. It's why I personally would never attend these demonstrations, as they're not what they claim to be. They're racist, just in a more acceptable way.

They're racist, just in a more acceptable way

No racism is acceptable. We clearly have very different moral codes.

Touting people who regularly burn the Israeli flag as a good group of people to have at your march is a bit of an odd one.

I mean, I think it was pretty clear I was being sarcastic seeing as my whole point is they're anti-Semitic and I despise anti-Semitism. I feel like you probably knew exactly what I meant but just wanted to twist my words to make yourself feel good about yourself for being so clever. Well done 👏🏼 Great job. We're all very proud of you.

Good to see them being arrested

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/08/chester-woman-55-arrested-over-false-posts-about-southport-murders