Thread 2 - Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

[Rubbishconfession]

Following on from thread 1, linked below.

Let's hope the CCTV / sighting in town gives a glimmer of home that he made the walk from the beach to town ok.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5090880-michael-moseley-missing-after-disappearing-on-holiday-walk?page=10&reply=135846185

Absolutely. And then telling a sob story when it blows up in their faces. We've all got a sob story but don't go around laying the boot in to a missing persons family.

They need sympathy right now not judgement- I agree

Yes @nobeans and what is more offensive is the posters defending those comments and calling them 'opinions'. They're not opinions, they're spiteful, nasty, unhelpful words.

I too have lost a person who went missing. Stop blaming the family.

low-mid 20s at the coldest night temp here atm

His belongings should make him hopefully easier to find on terrain? A dark rucksack, dark clothes, purple umbrella? Against a backdrop of ‘white’ terrain?

I really hope he’s found soon.

I'm hoping so.

But in heat above body temperature, you need a lot of water just to stay alive, even if you are staying in shade hoping someone comes to rescue you.

Rule of thumb (very roughly) on military deployments is

• when temperate - 2-4 ltrs per head per day
• in high temperatures - 8-12 ltrs

(that's not allowing for hygiene, as deployed personnel aren't always v hygienic and they have earth latrines)

BTW - assets from Cyprus - they need to be requested by the host government. The military doesn't just turn up in someone else's country! The Greek military would have v similar capabilities anyhow.

It's very rugged land, there will be a lot of areas of shade, which can appear blue. If it were smoother, he'd stand out a mile, but if he's done the sensible thing and got into some shade, he'd be harder to see. It must be torturous for his family, and if he's still with us, I can't imagine what he's been through.

@Janiie
@IDontSleepIDream

I really don't think you understand how searches work or the location of this incident at all.

No, you don't go off hunting for CCTV as the first action. You start a physical search at the location of the last confirmed sighting and work out from there.

They did not waste 2 days as you say and it is out of order for you to suggest so.

Remember, this is a very small island with few resources and they had to make best use of what they had in the early stages until extra resources could reach the island.

Please stop with your inappropriate remarks and opinions as you are not experts on the subject and your snide comments are not helping.

I read there are goats and sheep on the rocks, so where are they getting their water from?

As the focus has now turned to the mountainous path, I'm holding onto hope that they find some trace of this poor man today
Locals are searching who will have an idea of the terrain.
It could be, he thought it would be a short cut back to the house, and got on the wrong path or wrong direction.
He'd only arrived the day before, but I don't knew if he'd visited previously.
My heart goes out to his family and their tortuous wait for news.

Presumably military deployments include strenuous marching though.

Should work as expected overnight then - I'm sure I saw something that said it has been in use, but it didn't say where (initial path as far as Pedi or all possible paths from beach to Pedi to place he was staying)

'No, you don't go off hunting for CCTV as the first action. You start a physical search at the location of the last confirmed sighting and work out from there.'

Surely you do both starting at the same time not a couple of days later. Ive just seem a Sky report and she suggests there isn't much activity as it's too hot. I mean yes surely that is why there is the urgency. It's too dark after 8pm, too hot during the day. The rescuers sound a bit fussy tbh.

I don’t think we have all the facts. There is so much here that doesn’t add up. His family must be going through hell right now. I hope they get some answers soon as I can’t think of anything worse or more torturous than not knowing what has happened to someone you love.

The rescuers need to stay safe.

Thread 3 is here

I think it's almost certain "they" know or think they know what's happened and of course much of the information is kept out of the public domain, as it should be.

The rescuers sound a bit fussy tbh.

Or, simply following safety protocols.

If it's too hot for them how do they think a lost, dehydrated, probably injured man feels.

Of course. But there's no point more people being at excessive risk

Oh for goodness sake.

How do you always manage to stir up such controversy and aggro on these threads?

Why do you think they are not putting the rescuers at undue risk? It’s as if you’re trying to imply they can’t be bothered…

The rescue won't be based on feeling empathy for him. It will be based on keeping everybody as safe as possible, including him. If they have to risk themselves for his safety, that's foolish. Professional rescue operations don't risk the rescue team beyond a certain, pre-decided point.

I’m sure the condition he’s in is upmost in their minds (with how he feels being a second consideration). But however much individually they may want to take risks, they’ll be confined by H&S parameters that are there for a reason.

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